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reply posted on 13-10-2008 @ 04:11 PM by toepick
reply to post by uberdave223



I'm with you.. I'm writing in Ron Paul, I hate to be a part of this mess..In my opinion this is exactly what 'they' want to happen...

Who are they? well, probably the world banking elite.

Incite everyone to be against everyone else, devide America build hate then when the shtf we can come in and take over.

There are better alternatives to these two candadites, it just saddens me that they don't get the coverage.

I think this is telling enough (source)

Obama:
Goldman Sachs $739,521 University of California $697,506 Harvard University $501,489 Citigroup Inc $492,548Google Inc $487,355 JPMorgan Chase & Co $475,112 National Amusements Inc $432,169 Microsoft Corp $429,656 UBS AG $419,550 Lehman Brothers $391,774 Wilmerhale Llp $383,024 Time Warner $375,063 Sidley Austin LLP $370,916 Skadden, Arps et al $360,409 Stanford University $341,399 Morgan Stanley $341,380 Latham & Watkins $328,879 Jones Day $309,960 University of Chicago $294,237 General Electric $290,584

McCain:
Merrill Lynch $349,170 Citigroup Inc $287,801 Morgan Stanley $249,377 Goldman Sachs $220,045 JPMorgan Chase & Co $206,392 AT&T Inc $183,663 Credit Suisse Group $175,503 PricewaterhouseCoopers $163,670 Blank Rome LLP $153,426US Government $152,118
US Army $150,470 Wachovia Corp $147,456 Greenberg Traurig LLP $145,737 UBS AG $141,365 Bank of America $133,975 FedEx Corp $121,904 Gibson, Dunn & Crutcher $120,246 US Dept of Defense $118,125 Lehman Brothers $115,707 Bear Stearns $108,000

Looks pretty obvious to me who's interest these guys are going to follow.
Apologies if this got a little OT - my point is I think the hate built up around these two parties is just a distraction.


reply posted on 13-10-2008 @ 04:13 PM by Office 4256
Originally posted by Constitutional Scholar
reply to
post by boaby_phet



Just because you dont "understand" racism doesn't make someone who holds unpopular opinions ignorant, dumb, stupid, etc etc.

Of course not. People with unpopular opinions can be very intelligent; just look at people in the various scientific fields that the Christian and Islamic fundimentalists have decided are fraudulant. On the other hand, people who adhere to racist beliefs are either stupid or mentally / emotionally challanged. I've lived in the South 51 of my 54 years and never met an intelligent racist yet.


reply posted on 13-10-2008 @ 04:23 PM by LoneWeasel
reply to post by buddhasystem



Buddha and Ezzibo, I can absolutely see where you're coming from. But what you're arguing against is one of the fundamental tenets of democracy, no? There's always going to be a sizeable proportion of people who do not fully grasp every issue in the election properly. There are levels of ignorance - there isn't a neat divide between those, as it were, "in the know", and people who think Obama to be a terrorist because his name rhymes with Osama. The truth is most of us lie somewhere in between!

As Churchill put it - "democracy is the very worst form of government, except for all the others..."

LW


reply posted on 13-10-2008 @ 04:25 PM by Anonymous ATS




reply posted on 13-10-2008 @ 04:38 PM by buddhasystem
Originally posted by LoneWeasel
reply to
post by buddhasystem



Buddha and Ezzibo, I can absolutely see where you're coming from. But what you're arguing against is one of the fundamental tenets of democracy, no? There's always going to be a sizeable proportion of people who do not fully grasp every issue in the election properly. There are levels of ignorance - there isn't a neat divide between those, as it were, "in the know", and people who think Obama to be a terrorist because his name rhymes with Osama. The truth is most of us lie somewhere in between!


Dear LW,

I can also see where you are coming from and I can't say I disagree with you totally on the point you just made. However, according to what I saw in the past 8 tragic years of the Republican presidency, the Republicans actually foster the dumbed-down view of the world in the population because it gives them more efficient means of mind and mass controls... Just look at the Pavlovian reaction that has been imprinted in a lot of people: "social medicine = prime evil", "Barack = terrorist", "Iraq=WMD", "Saddam=9/11", and obviously all of that association goes on without any intellectual analysis and much less critique.

None other than Palin mentioned as true -- the fictitious connection of 9/11 and Iraq just a few weeks ago, and trust me, it's just a part of everyday tactics.

It's not the duty of a politician to be directly responsible for tutoring each and every citizen in matters of politics and economy, but at the same time it's a crime to mislead and disinform to gain more control or votes. The results of that... are in the OP.


reply posted on 13-10-2008 @ 04:54 PM by Constitutional Scholar
reply to post by Synyster



So you want to "purge" people just because they have opinions you disagree with?

Very American.....



reply posted on 13-10-2008 @ 04:58 PM by Anonymous ATS
I might sound ignorant, but I think there are some valid unanswered questions into Obama's past and he even raises the questions in his book. Yes, I have read it and yes I do still believe it is questionable.
However, I do not think McCain is the answer either.
I am 28 and of all 10 years I have been able to vote (and the 10 preceding I wish I could have) this is the oddest election I have ever witnessed.
If I walk into 7-11 and I have to pick an "Obama" or "McCain" coffee cup for my morning joe I just don't feel confident in what is happening in the election process.
And mind you, each candidate is still receiving campaigning money. Does that make any sense?
I know it is a scary day to face the questions and demand the answers, we might not like the truth. We could be lied to, I mean.. haven't we gotten used to being lied to already?
It's just sooo much easier to lay down on the bandwagon and wear our support button pretending that we are correct in our "conviction" for change.
Fact: He hasn't done one thing for Chicago but help contribute to the wall street bust by allowing under qualified citizens purchase homes they could not afford.

Fact: ACORN set up thousands of fake accounts in order to vote in Obamas favor in November.

Fact: Thousands of dollars came in to his campaign from terrorist countries in support of running for the most important office in our country.

I am not here to say vote McCain, I am not here to say Obama is horrible.

I am here to say the 2-party system is crap.
Time to look at 3rd party candidates, and if you ever supported Ron Paul he has made his endorsement for his 3rd party pick.
Restore our constitution.
Put a product behind our money.
Bring our jobs and our soliders back home.
RESTORE OUR FOREIGN POLICY.

Stop blaming everyone but yourself.


reply posted on 13-10-2008 @ 05:02 PM by Thousand
reply to post by dbates



The monkey comments are not fair game. Calling a black person a monkey is a well-established racial slur, and saying it's okay by comparing it to the trend of referring to George W as a monkey in order to insult his intelligence is an argument that just doesn't hold water.

And please: "The accusation of racist insinuates that you believe that blacks resemble monkeys and you don't like others pointing it out. " Seriously? What kind of demented twist of logic is that? Who did you pay off to earn Super Moderator status?


reply posted on 13-10-2008 @ 05:05 PM by jsobecky
reply to post by Karlhungis



Originally posted by Karlhungis
LOL, go tell that to this guy or any other racist.
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The guy in the picture looks like he could be black.

Just sayin'.
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