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reply posted on 13-10-2008 @ 04:35 PM by logician magician
Originally posted by bloodcircle
Originally posted by logician magician
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What it comes down to is choice. People have the right to refuse treatments they don't want.

[edit on 13-10-2008 by ghaleon12]


People also have the right to no not get raped.

Uh oh.


First you blather on about a 66 year old man who didn't keep his lawn green being the same as a child molester, and now you're equating unauthorised vaccines with rape.

Thats it with you, ignore... you're pathetic.


Oh, I did?

I bet your interpretation of life is is interesting. You sound like someone that nobody would want to be friends with because you skew all input to the point of retardedness.


reply posted on 13-10-2008 @ 04:35 PM by Gregor100
reply to post by Blueracer



EXACTLY!

Its not a #ing sex jab.... its CERVIACAL CANCER!

Jesus you people just want anything to have a dig at

Edit: Before any smart asses tell me it is a sex jab, its not. Sex is one of the main causes but it is not a sex jab... #ing hell... You just blow things out of proportion and you know it. Also its 3 injections over six months.... you have said it like they brutally stabbed her and that it like "MWAHAHA YOU HAVE BEEN IMMUNISED AGAINST A DANGEROUS DISEASE!!" if anything they were doing her a favour... but she would need another 2 anyway so gtfo

[edit on 13/10/08 by Gregor100]



reply posted on 13-10-2008 @ 04:58 PM by CeltAngel
reply to post by americandingbat



Americandingbat,
I'll be happy to dig up the sources. Unfortunately, I did it while at work, so it may take me a while tonight. If I cannot find the same page, I'll check out of my IE history tomorrow morning and edit this post. In general though, my sources came from:

cancer.gov
guideline.gov
webmd.com
The web site for the DaVinci Surgery roobot - maybe
davincisurgery.com?

I was led to these sites by googling for HPV statistics, cervical cancer statistics, and cancer causes (I think that was it). More later!


reply posted on 13-10-2008 @ 07:18 PM by amazed
Originally posted by americandingbat
Originally posted by CeltAngel

Unfortunately, advertising makes it seem like HPV is the only cause of cervical cancer. Statistically, at least as of 2007, we can prove this wrong. It is currently estimated that there are 20 million people in the US alone that have HPV with 5.5 million more to be infected every year.

In 2007, there were roughly 500,000 reported cases of cervical cancer worldwide. Of those, 11,000 were caused by HPV. 11,000/500,000=.022 - that's 2% of cervical cancer that was caused by HPV.



Could you provide a source for this? Because everything that I've seen says that all cervical cancer (except one rare kind caused by your mother having taken a certain medication while pregnant) involve HPV.

They may also involve other risk factors, such as smoking, poor nutrition, etcetera, but the virus is always present at the site where the cancer begins.

It is true that most HPV infections, even of the strains of HPV that can cause cancer, do not result in cancer. I wonder if perhaps the statistics you cite are reversed? It makes more sense if it says that there are 500,000 new cases of HPV reported each year, and only 11,000 new cases of cervical cancer or pre-cancerous lesions.

That would mean 2% of HPV infections result in pre-cancerous lesions or cancer, and with annual PAP smears and other early detection, these can be treated with great success.

For those of you who are looking for support in avoiding getting these shots, or having your children get these shots, I recommend you take a look at
this editorial from the New England Journal of Medicine. Maybe even print it out to take to the doctor with you. When the NEJM prints an opinion piece urging caution and opposing making a vaccine mandatory, you have to think there might be good reason.


What causes squamous cells or glandular cells to become abnormal and develop into cancer isn't clear. However, it's certain that the sexually transmitted infection called human papillomavirus (HPV) plays a role. Evidence of HPV is found in nearly all cervical cancers. However, HPV is a very common virus and most women with HPV never develop cervical cancer.

www.mayoclinic.com...=causes

Another words, they don't know for sure! Not ALL cervical cancers are caused by HPV, but certainly a large number of women with cancer have HPV. AND MOST women with HPV never develop cervical cancer.

So, a couple years ago I was kinda "pushed" into getting my daughter these shots, with uncertainly I allowed her to have her first one. If I could make the choice again, I would say no, especially after having done some research on this vaccine.

After the first shot (within just a short while) my daughter ended up getting a headache, very intense causing nausea which lasted for several days. Before this she rarely developed headaches. Now she gets them all the time including migraines, which she had her first the week after receiving this shot.

Now, can I 100% pinpoint her migraines and continued headaches to this vaccine? No, I cannot, but I can say that it is very coincidental that these started right after she received this vaccine.

I would be interested in hearing from others and their experience.

I did not take her back for the rest of the series of this vaccine.


reply posted on 13-10-2008 @ 11:09 PM by son of PC
reply to post by Karlhungis
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"I agree. I would be seeking legal damages as well. This type of thing infuriates me."

These "complainers" are frequently idiotic welfare moms trying to stand up to doctors and nurses. When I was a kid and my father said he would " kill somebody if" even the "higher ups" listened to him.
These " not so veiled threats" are better than lawsuits. I put my first troublemaker in the hospital when I was six. I have been hospitalized for combat wounds too. Have had to have plastic surgery for disfigurement in a brutal fight. I (think) I ran a big shot doctor out of town to another state.
If your doctor pisses you off, loosen some of his teeth.


reply posted on 14-10-2008 @ 12:49 AM by zorgon
Originally posted by sos37
C'mon you guys are disappointing me. I'm still waiting for someone to say how this is Bush's fault.


COMPULSORY VACCINATION IS COMING TO NEW YORK STATE KIDS UNLESS YOU ACT NOW!

Under proposed Assembly Bill 10942, NY surrenders its control of public health and makes every vaccination recomended by the CDC’s Advisory Committee on Immunization Practices mandatory. For the first time, vaccination of infants and toddlers becomes mandatory. Under this proposed law, there will be NO exemptions for any reason.


President Bush has proposed military quarantines of whole sections of the population re: Avian flu or other pandemic. Oct. 2007 executive order from President Bush that directed HHS to establish a task force to plan for potential catastrophes like a terrorist attack, pandemic influenza or a natural disaster that would ensure full use of Department of Defense resources.


Instead, every shot reccommended by ACIP, no matter how absurd or dangerous, will be mandatory. (The dangerous and unproven HPV vaccine will be mandated for your daughter) Every one.

Under the current ACIP vaccination schedule, children between the ages of birth and 7 years receive 47 doses of vaccines! No science shows this is either safe or effective.

By age 18 the total is 67 vaccine doses for boys and 70 for girls (including the absurd and dangerous HPV vaccines). No science shows this is either safe or effective. Quite a lot of science shows that it is neither.


www.healthfreedomusa.org...

There Happy now?


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