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reply posted on 13-10-2008 @ 10:49 AM by logician magician
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What it comes down to is choice. People have the right to refuse treatments they don't want.

[edit on 13-10-2008 by ghaleon12]

People also have the right to no not get raped.

Uh oh.



reply posted on 13-10-2008 @ 01:04 PM by americandingbat
Originally posted by CeltAngel

Unfortunately, advertising makes it seem like HPV is the only cause of cervical cancer. Statistically, at least as of 2007, we can prove this wrong. It is currently estimated that there are 20 million people in the US alone that have HPV with 5.5 million more to be infected every year.

In 2007, there were roughly 500,000 reported cases of cervical cancer worldwide. Of those, 11,000 were caused by HPV. 11,000/500,000=.022 - that's 2% of cervical cancer that was caused by HPV.



Could you provide a source for this? Because everything that I've seen says that all cervical cancer (except one rare kind caused by your mother having taken a certain medication while pregnant) involve HPV.

They may also involve other risk factors, such as smoking, poor nutrition, etcetera, but the virus is always present at the site where the cancer begins.

It is true that most HPV infections, even of the strains of HPV that can cause cancer, do not result in cancer. I wonder if perhaps the statistics you cite are reversed? It makes more sense if it says that there are 500,000 new cases of HPV reported each year, and only 11,000 new cases of cervical cancer or pre-cancerous lesions.

That would mean 2% of HPV infections result in pre-cancerous lesions or cancer, and with annual PAP smears and other early detection, these can be treated with great success.

For those of you who are looking for support in avoiding getting these shots, or having your children get these shots, I recommend you take a look at
this editorial from the New England Journal of Medicine. Maybe even print it out to take to the doctor with you. When the NEJM prints an opinion piece urging caution and opposing making a vaccine mandatory, you have to think there might be good reason.


reply posted on 13-10-2008 @ 01:12 PM by bloodcircle
Originally posted by logician magician
reply to
post by logician magician



What it comes down to is choice. People have the right to refuse treatments they don't want.

[edit on 13-10-2008 by ghaleon12]


People also have the right to no not get raped.

Uh oh.

First you blather on about a 66 year old man who didn't keep his lawn green being the same as a child molester, and now you're equating unauthorised vaccines with rape.

Thats it with you, ignore... you're pathetic.


reply posted on 13-10-2008 @ 01:42 PM by thegrayone
Originally posted by Supercertari
This jab is being promoted as a "cancer vaccine" when in reality its a vaccine against a sexually transmitted virus that causes genital warts and in some case cervical cancer. Its basically another triumph for misogynism disguising itself once again as empowering women. Now with THIRTEEN year old girl's being given this vaccine it will remove another obstacle to men's gratification and have them appropriately immune so young guys can learn at an early age that the female is there for his satisfaction. Any worries or problems are being slowly eradicated by filling women with hormones, vaccines and if his bestial urges result in the "punishment" of a baby well the woman can just climb up on a table put her foot in the stirrups and get scrapped out.

When oh when is feminism going to wake up and realise the great sexual liberation is in fact the tightening of their captivity to male promiscuity?


I'm sorry for getting on you case too but as a bartender over the weekend (I'm a male just in case) I see and experience first hand how women LOVE to have sex. Sexual pleasure is not limited to men only, as a matter of fact, who do you think enjoy sex more, a woman or a man? A man sexual pleasure is just limited to those 10 seconds of climax, other than that we feel pleasure knowing that we are gratifying the woman we are experiencing the act of sex at the moment. Women, in the other hand, can have pleasure throughout the whole experience and can even have multiple orgasms, or have orgasms withing 1 min, 2 min or 5 min of the last one ( I would like to see a man doing that). Women love sex as much as men or even more.


reply posted on 13-10-2008 @ 03:07 PM by beefeater
reply to post by Prima Facie



Good point, Seroxat took me to the edge. I doubt this HVP vaccine is any different in terms of proper testing, side effects and so on.
I will ask again, has anyones child had this vaccine and seen what goes on 1st hand?
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