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Pope Pius XII - Pius XII's Activities During World War II
On the same day that Germany invaded Poland, Pius XII telegraphed the papal nuncio in Warsaw with instructions to organize Polish Jews for a passage to Palestine. One of the crucial terms of the concordat with Germany was that German officials were to regard baptized Jews as Christians. Accordingly, Pius ordered his nuncio in Turkey (Angelo Roncalli, the future Pope John XXIII) to prepare thousands of baptismal certificates for refugee Jews arriving in Istanbul in the hope that such papers would gain them passage into the country. (When he was later thanked for his extensive lifesaving work, Roncalli said, "In all these painful matters I have referred to the Holy See and simply carried out the Pope's orders: first and foremost to save Jewish lives.") As the war went on, such documents were freely distributed in all occupied nations, and Pius established a committee that helped thousands of Jews leave Europe with identification showing that they were under the protection of the Catholic Church. (Documents issued by the Church also allowed thousands of Nazis and other war criminals to assume false identities and escape to freedom in Latin America.)
After the Nazis invaded the small nations of the Netherlands, Luxembourg, and Belgium, Pius sent expressions of sympathy to the Queen of the Netherlands, the King of Belgium, and the Grand Duchess of Luxembourg. When the Italian Fascist dictator Mussolini learned of the warnings and the telegrams of sympathy, he took them as a personal affront and had his ambassador to the Vatican file an official protest, charging that Pius had taken sides against Italy's ally Germany. The Pope responded that his conscience was at ease and added, "We are not afraid to go to a concentration camp.". In any case, Mussolini's foreign minister claimed that Pius XII was "ready to let himself be deported to a concentration camp, rather than do anything against his conscience" (Dalin, p. 76).
Oh and by the way ,your church has just admited the probable existence of aliens !!!!
beam me up jesus , there's no intelligent life in the vatican .
I knew it , another born again christian who is not quite ready to come out of the closet . So when Jesus said "think not that I came to bring peace but a sword " what did he mean by that EXACTLY ?
Of course its subject to INTERPRETATION , always the most conveniant excuse for brainwashed god botherers .
I Have seen and talked to many alien species , they are my friends .
can you say the same for Jesus ? NO .
I dont give a stuff about your beliefs and when your god does not show up to save you , you will question your blind faith TOO .
Proof ? you cant handle the proof. I have seen a Jehovahs wittness Jibber and sweat with fear when one of my Alien friends walked up behind me and showed himself . He showed himself because this creep was a threat to me and my family .
Not a crazy notion at all , it happens to be true .
The evidence for your ET origins are everywhere you look and in your DNA.
If you ever come to visit OZ , let me know and I can tell you a beach you can visit where I can guarantee half the people you will see there are Aliens ! Its funny because we take it for granted but its true nonetheless .
You will notice a lot of the guys and galls have Dragon Tattoos . You will notice lots of grey and green eyes , you will notice a lot of guys have monobrows ( a classic altairian male feature ) .
You will notice altairians generally have square jawed faces , very handsome , lean and muscular . Always polite to the ladies .
Their livelihoods ,their precious ,predatory religious protection rackets and on it goes.
Your God , the one so many of you blindly worship , is just a stranded alien who lost his technology and power when he went to war with our people . He's stuck here .All he wants is to get off ,escape his punishment . He cares only for himself . He loves only himself.
But because most humans try to emulate his modus operandi , you lie ,you cheat you ,you war and rape ,wherever you go . You copy his behaviour because he is your 'GOD'. Your Jealous god, your only god .
His time is almost up , he is panicking ,he cannot escape and so he throws everything out there in a last desperate bid for the freedom he has denied you all for so long . Let the bastard go , he does not serve you ,he does not care about you . The evidence for that is all around you .
He claims to be your father because you are his genetic experiment , according to him. How do you claim ownership of anyones soul !
Ridiculous . HE was a genetic experiment .The star trek episodes built around the story of Kahn are based on him.
Do you want to know what most ET's REALLY think of you humans ?
You actually wonder why we have so little to do with you on this planet ?
because you are vicious ,mindless , lying predators who have no respect for anything or anyone beyond your own STUPID BELIEFS .
Why take a picture of an Altairian and post it here when they look just like humans only sexier ! and more honourable .
The real differences are on the inside .
So you keep banging your head against the wall , you will only be the more easy to manipulate when your god sends you to the trenches .
So next time your walking down the street ask yourself what your god meant when he says he created you in his own image then allowed his
men to sleep with your daughters ? Hmmmmm......
so he created your women as whores and left you to work the mines .Charming god you have . Still if thats your definition of love , go for it .
And as for the Lizards , mate , you would crap your pants the moment one took his cloak off .but you wont have to wait much longer ,hell ,even the catholics are crawling up australia's arse to avoid credibility melt down when the truth does come out . The pope has even given us special envoy access to his holiness now, I wonder why that might be .
Somehow , I dont think you will still be posting here when disclosure is complete though.
The sad part about this austrALIEN encounter between you and me is that I dont see you as an enemy at all . Your fear and ignorance yes, but
You ,the REAL you , not at all.
Originally posted by rapinbatsisaltherage
reply to post by EricD
That seems fairly biased to me.
Feel free to U2U me with proof that the claims made in the articles are not true. Who cares how the author tackles them? I see no false statments. I only see truth being stated that some may not like or take issue with. Then read an article that panders to your way of thinking, but don't claim a site is biased simply because you do not favor the articles or their "tone".
[edit on 14-10-2008 by rapinbatsisaltherage]
Originally posted by rapinbatsisaltherage
What really happened during WWII? That's something that takes a lot of research and time to know because the "surface" history seems often inaccurate and skewed. As someone who has tried to make sense of the jumbled details of occurrences I doubt your pop up (possibly adware) infested site is going to tell me anything I care to know, but thanks for the "effort".
You drew your source of information from a Atheist site.
Originally posted by EricD
Maybe this will help a bit. It is pretty narrow in scope, specifically dealing with the Papacy in WWII, so it's not as comprehensive as it could be.
It's an article by a Rabbi and noted historian on the site for Columbia University.
I'll try to dig up some more links to information by credible, fairly objective sources tomorrow (it's getting pretty late).
Hope that helps.
Originally posted by msnevil
Due to their Pope being supreme overlord over all creation, most people are suspicious of them, with good reason. (Of course, I know Catholics who claim the pope is fallible and ignore him on certain things like Birth Control. But if they were "good catholics" they would believe that the Pope is infallible.)
i don't know why people are even arguing with you, you profess not only your own ignorance, but also your obstinate determination not to change your opinion despite any facts presented to you.
context is everything, maybe when you grow up a touch you'll realise that. the actions of the catholic church are not in doubt, but the context of those actions change the meaning or signifigance of those acts
Using lame excuses like your botroot tells you not to check the site is really hysterical.
Contrary to the, ahem, infallibility of Church dogma, this is a human institiution, and like every single other thing of or by man and woman, it is full of both good and bad.
Originally posted by EricD
Your beliefs about the Pope are not shared by mainstream Catholicism nor is it the policy of the Church.