The Commander in Chief, as Commander has the "need" to know anything and everything. He has access to ALL projects and ALL programs. However, this does not mean he/she wants to know everything about everything.

Not everyone has the paranoid concepts thrown around here so causally.

He/she is also covered by the exact same laws covering every other person involved with classified information.

The Term - SCI(DCID 1/14 ELIGIBLE)

Meaning - This person has a Top Secret Security Clearance for the United States Government for Compartmental Information and aids, ie- cryptologic equipment and access to secure/restricted areas.

There is no such thing as a "Super Secret" clearance. But, I'm sure that has all been covered.

VDOG.45

Great find. Compartmentalization is a great method for keeping a secret.

Classified military networks are closed systems using
point to point encryption by way of crypto devices/keymat
( keymat being classified and highly controlled )
For an outsider to hack through it would require a
godlike knowlege of math and computer science.
Maybe a few IBM Roadrunners too.

Originally posted by WestPoint23
Does any one have more clearance than he president cuz there are incidents where someone knows more than the president but they don't tell the president on UFO's and other topics but isn't it illegal and against the law to hide anything form the president of the US? is this true

I might know of quite a few people that have a higher security clearence then the current and past presidents but even having such a clearance means you have no life you are watched 24 hours a day 7 days a week exc exc. The president of the United States is nothing more then a figure head to keep the people in check and when ever something goes wrong and it usually does he takes the fall and the group goes on exc exc. Example = nixon jfk so on so forth.

The ablity to make a ufo is one thing which in reality is not to difficult the ablity not to get shot down by the U.S. or other airforces is another

Ask the people at the NSA having the ablity to find out anything about anyone anywhere is one thing the question is what do you do with it once you have it? I think sooner rather then later the agencies beyond the NSA are going to take over and that's when the bigger pictures going to come into focus.

Falcon

[snip] The vastness of clearances now a days has really watered them down. You all know you do not even have to work for the gov't to get a clearance right? I have friends that are stock brokers and have confidential clearances. Its all on a 'need to know' basis. If you can prove to the DOE, DOD, or DOJ that you have a 'need to know', and you can pass a DSS background check and a SSBI, you can get a clearance... you just have to pony up the $$$ for it first.


Owner of three (1 DOD, 1 DOJ and one i'll leave out)



Mod Edit - removed uncessary remark

[edit on 22-10-2008 by elevatedone]

The idea that the President would somehow be denied access to most information is implausible. He/She could simply create, through the agencies under his/her control, a program or circumstance requiring his/her need to know. Ideally, it is sound appointees in those agencies along with political pressure, zealous congressional oversight, and an active and aggressive press corps that prevents abuses of this vast power.

My clearance was "Top Secret NSA/NAC" when I was in the Navy and when I worked as a federal security officer on a navy research base.
The NAC part i understand as a national agency check.
But the NSA part i don't understand "National Security Agency????" i had nothing to do with the NSA.
I was allowed in the crypto room on the ship i was on but not the navy base unless i was escorted by someone with a separate crypto clearance badge.

The only other place i was not allowed in was the B-3-9 FORINT Vault, That one also had a separate clearance badge. and there were two types for it a badge for the people that worked in the vault and a day badge for people that had "a need to see" a document/s that were stored in the vault.

This Navy research base had different color badges for your clearance level.
green for secret
yellow for top secret and letters down each side for the areas building and ranges you were allowed in or on.
white for no clearance.
and NATO badges. they were some where between no clearance and secret.
(the Navy does not trust NATO personal. Any classified documents with NOFOR on them were off limits to NATO personal.)

With the letter P if you were allowed to carry a camera.
If you were not cleared for something they would punch out the letter for that area. I had none punched out

The only separate badge areas were the base crypto and the FORINT vault.
and you still had to have a base Top Secret badge plus the special clearance badge.

I was cleared for all the areas building and ranges and had the camera clearance. and one time i was allow in the crypto rooms with escort to check a alarm malfunction and then they had covers over many of the desks and equipment while i was there.


[edit on 26-10-2008 by ANNED]

half the stuff in that large list are not clearances i.e. DISCO is not a clearance, its the investigation authority. Neither is SSBI, thats an technique used to grant clearances.

Theres basically

C
S
TS
Compartmentalized

...for all the major departments (DOD, DOJ, DOE...) and thats it people... nothing more nothing less.


once again. DOD-S, DOJ-S, CDC-SA

It's the "need to know" that gets you. When I was "debriefed" the day before i exited the Navy, my clearance remained but my "need to know" was taken away.

Hey Mr M.

Did you sign that one document, I can't remeber the DOD number anymore (it's been 10 years or better), but it stated some things about surveilance and a period of time the DOD could do that after you got out of the Navy?

I did...

yea, in your initial security brief? I believe the one you are talking about is given to you at the end of the initial briefing... the 'do this, you go to jail, do this, you go to jail, dont do this, you go to jail...' speech. I signed it the day I was granted my interim clearance.

And I believe the time period is 7 years.