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Originally posted by Cythraul
Agree with all your points, but I'm not sure the OP or video were trying to suggest that this represents the farming industry (haven't watched the video so I might be wrong), just that it represents the very real, significantly widespread, negative side of the farming industry. Most people think all farming is quite humane, maybe a bit cramped but nothing horrifying. The extreme terrible side of it is largely unknown to most people and I'm glad it's being brought to people's attention. Sure, there'll always be people who can watch a video like that and see nothing wrong with it - but I'll not waste my words saying what I think about those soulless human beings . Meat doesn't (and shouldn't ever) have to = cruelty and sadism. [/quote
Actually the video starts with the phrase "industry standards" and so yes it's claiming to show the majority of farming practices. I should maybe point out that here in the UK, some of these practices are actually illegal. I'm wondering if they're legal in the USA? I know for a fact that PETA and other organisations have used footage of illegal farming practices to further their cause. I seem to recall someone from PETA using footage froma polish farm and passing it off as american. I'll try and find a link for that to back it up
PETA for example love to have a go at veal farmers, yet here in the UK veal farming is very humane. They are not chained to the floor, kept in dark cabins and fed milk. This is a myth put aobut by animal rights activists. It may go on in other countries but not here in the UK, at least not legally.
I think you're slightly naieve though, to feed the world requires some horrible practices. Battery farming chickens is absolutely awful and yet required to provide the eggs the world needs. I personally don't buy eggs from battery chickens because i visited battery farms and was horrified. Luckily my local farm has free range eggs and if i buy them direct they're cheaper anyway
Originally posted by TXMACHINEGUNDLR
I will still eat meat, own dogs, and not give a damn about the eco nuts.....That is my truth...Oh and just for that video I am going to slowly cut down my Christmas tree.
Originally posted by ImaginaryReality1984
I think you're slightly naieve though, to feed the world requires some horrible practices.
Originally posted by LostChildrenOfBabylon
After watching a movie like this it just really enforces my belief that humanity should be wiped off the face of this earth. We cannot let this continue. 1% of our population controls 40% of the world...
Originally posted by Cythraul
Naivety or Idealism? To feed a healthy world population does not require factory farming in an ideal world. We made natural killing/farming work for far longer than modern factory farming. But then again, I'm somewhat of a Primitivist.
Originally posted by ghaleon12
reply to post by _Phoenix_
A cow can't tell the difference between a knife going into its throat or a wolf ripping its jugular. So what makes humanity bad because of this? The cow dies either way.
Some of you care more about animals than people, and its disgusting. I'd rather see an animal die so a human can live.
Originally posted by ImaginaryReality1984
Well that undermines your arguement by being a primitivist.
Originally posted by rickyrrr
For every cute furry animal that we hurt or kill there are countless ugly animals killed by other animals. All of the animal kingdom is cruel. The only difference is that humans have a conscience and either get neurotic about it or find means to conceal the cruel truth from themselves, while other carnivores simply enjoy their kill.
Originally posted by _Phoenix_
Originally posted by ghaleon12
Who cares about animals, we have humans that are dieing and being abused. That's a little more concerning for me. Tears are wasted on animals, once we can help all humans, then we can worry about the animals.
You are wrong. It's the "who cares about animals" attitude that makes humanity worse.
Originally posted by Eighty59
I've given up sharing videos like this because people just don't wanna see and hear how their bacon got to their gut. Sad we live in such a world of accepted brutality...
Originally posted by PuRe EnErGy
Complain complain, .. but never about the real problem... MONEY.
Dammit people, wake up and look around you, it has poisoned EVERYTHING it touches, and it has damn near touched everything, I wouldn't consider myself to be religious at all, but dammit, where's Jesus when you need him ... he over turned the money changers tables, even if it was just a story we need someone like that today, the endless problems that money causes, you can tell those who like to delete, distort, and generalize the issues in THIS video because they are so far from reality it is sad, if you cannot see that this is unnecessary cruelty to animals (for profit) than your reality tunnel is truly inescapable.