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Originally posted by Dienekes
Someone mentioned the Brady Campaign earlier. Just wanna say that if you dig into their site hard enough, they have information depicting that stricter gun laws=more gun crime. They have a map displaying specific shootings across the US and you can select each individual state to bring up a list. (if i remember correctly) They also have another feature in which they "grade" each state on how "safe" they are based on their laws or something to that effect. If you use the two tools together, the map providing information regarding to states with high number of shootings and states with low number of shootings, and the state "report cards", it clearly shows that the states with the more restrictions and regulations on guns have a larger number of shootings.
Originally posted by nfotech
Where do the gun control people get all the disinfo from? Do they have huge meetings around a hugging tree where the women order the men to think up more BS for the next newsletter? Usually when there is this much disinfo floating around a subject you can bet the Feds are involved at some point.
Originally posted by C.C.Benjamin
Originally posted by yellowbeard
reply to post by fmcanarney
It really IS that pathetic over here in Britain, no hand guns at all (licenced that is, the criminals still have them) no rifles unless you're a member of a gun club and use a range, and to get a licence for a shotgun you have to have written permission from a farmer or landowner saying you can shoot on their land. You can't even carry a knife unless it's a folding penknife (not even a lock knife) with a blade of less than three inches. We Brits are too scary for our government to allow us weapons, even a catapult will get you arrested
Yeah, right, cause the last thing I want is an easier supply of guns for the chavs to keep shooting people with. When they are widely available it will be so much easier to get them. At least with a knife you can try and run away.
Ultimately I can't see this being a bad thing. It's like the Yanks are afraid that King George is going to come back and get them, or something. That precious "but what if we are invaded!" line gets me every time.
Nope, running away should be banned. It only causes people to chase you.
See how silly it is to decree how others should handle a threatening situation?
Originally posted by WatchRider
In the UK the gunlaw (pre Dunblaine Massacre) precluded the chavs due to the already stringent gun clubs which you needed to belong to. Also there was no CCW system allowed either.
So the chavs wouldn't be allowed or would just obtain firearms illegally (which they do anyway). Also you needed to have a room without windows as an armoury with a strongbox to put them in. Can't see many chavs even having the braincells for the (now illegal) old method.
Originally posted by Anonymous ATS
reply to post by Tiloke
It was claimed that Colorado had very few instances of gun violence (with very laxed gun laws) and California, New York, and DC have many instances of gun violence (despite having very strict gun laws).
I just felt it would be prudent to note that California, DC, and New York have much large population densities than Colorado. Gun violence tends to take place in large cities, and the denser people are packed (and the starker the divide between upper and lower class) the more crime and gun violence there will be.
So that's not really a legitimate argument.
There are 554636 people in Denver (CO largest city)
There are 4,045,872 people in CA largest city (LA).
So... more gun violence to more people.
Guns can be used for much more than self-protection from an invading army. Guns are also used for hunting (which is how many people still get a good deal of their food), collection (yes, I have the big bore guns because I like them... nothing more. I could probably do just fine with a good .22LR), and protection from wildlife (believe it or not a rabid squirrel can do some major damage to a human, and don't get me started on how mean a healthy 'coon can be).