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Originally posted by harrytuttle
Because if that is true, why, Obama might even believe that the American People possess the ability to get our country back on track. He might believe that we could even survive this economic crises and TRANSFORM ourselves into the powerhouse of productivity and economic prosperity we once were!
You're right, we don't want someone like that. We want someone who doesn't believe in the power of change. We want someone who gets angry, quits, and wants to fight in a hundred year war with a religion (Islam) that is found in every corner of the world. That's what we need. That's the ticket.
If that is the best you got, I'd hate to see your worst.
Originally posted by kupoliveson
reply to post by justsomeboreddude
No many of us Obama supporters do not believe the GOVERNMENT of this country should solve our problems, I for one would just be happy if the government would stop creating NEW problems for us to deal with! Seriously man is life really all that better after 8 years of Bush? And if you are not saying a resounding, "F%^& no" then you must either have your eyes completely closed and living in a cave OR are in the upper 5% of the economic class who have bentifited under the rule of a man who was NOT elected by the populous of this country!
Nope, while I would like somekind of universial heath care plan and public schools that were actually competitive in a technically advanced world, I would settle for not blowing up innocent civilans in other countries and the upholding of our consitiution!
I SERIOUSLY worry about people like you, because our country is FILLED with them! You all pray on each other's fear, fear of terriorists, fear of poor people and your need to blame them, fear of losing your 401K's, fear of losing your job to "those Mexicans" the list could go on and on!
If I hear another person tell me our current economic problems are due to poor people buying houses they could not afford I may go postal! GIVE ME A BREAK! Most of the foreclosures are not from HUD housing or federal first time home buyers and many of them are from houses valued at over 200K! Just like the economic problems of the 80's were not cause of welfare mama's driving thier cadillacs like Regan wanted all of you SHEEP to believe! Seriously what percent of he federal budget goes into "social welfare", do you even know? Now compare that to the amount we are spending on the war in Iraq daily!
OPEN YOUR EYES MAN
Originally posted by justsomeboreddude
We will never become the powerhouse we once were with a person like Obama in charge.
Originally posted by roadgravel
Originally posted by justsomeboreddude
We will never become the powerhouse we once were with a person like Obama in charge.
Given that the current powers have worked to finish off what was left how can it be any worse with someone such as him trying to restore a bit of it.
To heck with trying to run the world and cater to the wealthy.
Originally posted by harrytuttle
...And the best you guys can come up with is some fantasy land accusation that stems from the fact that Obama served on a Board for a charity group with some reformed criminal who had transformed himself into a productive member of society (OMG the horror, the horror!!).
Originally posted by roadgravel
reply to post by justsomeboreddude
The last 8 years demonstrate how to bankrupt the country. A lot of money was also made but it wasn't the average person getting a better life. Corporate America's top men have had a great ride. Subtract AIG, what appears to be fraud in oil speculation, out sourcing of so many jobs and half the Iraq war then figure where the economics would be?
Something has to change.
Originally posted by harrytuttle
Because if that is true, why, Obama might even believe that the American People possess the ability to get our country back on track. He might believe that we could even survive this economic crises and TRANSFORM ourselves into the powerhouse of productivity and economic prosperity we once were!
Originally posted by justsomeboreddude
As far as CEO's making too much money. That is the fault of the businesses they work for. Republicans or Democrats didnt make a company pay someone a 30 million dollar bonus.
Originally posted by roadgravel
Originally posted by justsomeboreddude
As far as CEO's making too much money. That is the fault of the businesses they work for. Republicans or Democrats didnt make a company pay someone a 30 million dollar bonus.
But it does appear that corporations now run the government is as much as they get laws or lack of laws passed to suit their business practices. Seems like all this money being made isn't going down the food chain very far.
Originally posted by justsomeboreddude
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It does make it down in the form of dividends and stock prices. Granted stock prices have dived, but that is true for everyone and I am sure that hurt the rich much more in terms of actual dollars lost per individual. I guess the thing I dont understand is when did it become a crime to get rich in America. I thought that was part of the American dream.
Originally posted by roadgravel
Originally posted by justsomeboreddude
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It does make it down in the form of dividends and stock prices. Granted stock prices have dived, but that is true for everyone and I am sure that hurt the rich much more in terms of actual dollars lost per individual. I guess the thing I dont understand is when did it become a crime to get rich in America. I thought that was part of the American dream.
With the except of 401K, at lot of average people are not invested heavily in the market. The over valuation of he market has been talked about for a long time so was that money real.
Making money is part of the dream but bail outs for the powerful, unethical business practices and treating loyal workers as fodder should not be part of it.