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Originally posted by Overload
Well thank you for that link...It was definitely a good read.
You know....after reading this article, I think I have a new perspective of these stones. Its message is still kinda cryptic and errie , But think I kinda agree with there point of view...
Has anybody else read this article ????
Originally posted by LeoVirgo
reply to post by letthereaderunderstand
Are you saying when the Earth becomes overpopulated that the Earth will know this and accommodate to us and shed her skin and grow bigger in order to allow us more room?
Correct me for misunderstandings...sorry for the earlier one.
May 1, 1776 – Adam Weishaupt (code named Spartacus) establishes a secret society called the Order of the Illuminati. Weishaupt is the Professor of Canon Law at the University of Ingolstadt in Bavaria, part of Germany. The Illuminati seek to establish a New World Order. Their objectives are as follows:
1) Abolition of all ordered governments
2) Abolition of private property
3) Abolition of inheritance
4) Abolition of patriotism
5) Abolition of the family
6) Abolition of religion
7) Creation of a world government
July, 1782 – The Order of the Illuminati joins forces with Freemasonry at the Congress of Wilhelmsbad. The Comte de Virieu, an attendee at the conference, comes away visibly shaken. When questioned about the "tragic secrets" he brought back with him, he replies: “I will not confide them to you. I can only tell you that all this is very much more serious than you think.” From this time on, according to his biographer, "the Comte de Virieu could only speak of Freemasonry with horror."
The insigna of the Order of the Illuminati first appeared on the reverse side of U.S. one-dollar bills in 1933. One can read, at the base of the 13-story pyramid, the year 1776 (MDCCLXVI in Roman numerals). The eye radiating in all directions is the “all-spying eye” that symbolizes the terroristic, Gestapo-like, agency set up by Weishaupt. The Latin words “ANNUIT COEPTIS” mean “our enterprise (conspiracy) has been crowned with success.” Below, “NOVUS ORDO SECLORUM” explains the natureof the enterprise: a “New Social Order” or a “New World Order”.
George Washington - 1798 Acknowledged that Illuminati activity had come to the USA: "It is not my intention to doubt that the doctrine of the Illuminati and the principles of Jacobinism had not spread in the United States. On the contrary, no one is more satisfied of this fact than I am."
Thomas Jefferson 1816 "If the American people ever allow private banks to control the issue of their currency, first by inflation and then by deflation, the banks and corporations that will grow up around them will deprive the people of all property until their children wake up homeless on the continent their fathers conquered."
BANKER: Mayer Amschel Rothschild 1828 "Allow me to issue and control the money of a nation, and I care not who writes the laws." [Even a 4 year old can understand that people with control of money...write the laws!]
Dr. Adam [Spartacus] Weishaupt "Of all the means I know to lead men, the most effectual is a concealed mystery. The hankering of the mind is irresistible;"
President Andrew Jackson 1829-1837 "You are a den of vipers! I intend to rout you out, and by the Eternal God I will rout you out. If the people only understood the rank injustice of our money and banking system, there would be a revolution before morning."
President Woodrow Wilson 1916 "I am a most unhappy man. I have unwittingly ruined my country. A great industrial nation is controlled by its system of credit. Our system of credit is concentrated. The growth of the nation, therefore, and all our activities are in the hands of a few men. We have come to be one of the worst ruled, one of the most completely controlled and dominated governments in the civilized world. No longer a government by free opinion, no longer a government by conviction and the vote of the majority, but a government by the opinion and duress of a small group of dominant men."
Winston Churchill 1920 "From the days of Spartacus-Weishaupt to those of Karl Marx, to those of Trotsky, Bela Kun, Rosa Luxembourg, and Emma Goldman, this world wide conspiracy for the overthrow of civilization and for the reconstitution of society on the basis of arrested development, of envious malevolence and impossible equality, has been steadily growing. It played a definitely recognizable role in the tragedy of the French Revolution. It has been the mainspring of every subversive movement during the nineteenth century, and now at last this band of extraordinary personalities from the underworld of the great cities of Europe and America have gripped the Russian people by the hair of their heads, and have become practically the undisputed masters of that enormous empire."
President Franklin Roosevelt Nov. 21, 1933 "The real truth of the matter is, as you and I know, that a financial element in the larger centers has owned the government since the days of Andrew Jackson."
Mikhail Gorbachev-Nov. 2, 1987 addressed the Soviet Politburo: ?In October 1917, we parted with the old world, rejecting it once and for all. We are moving toward a new world, the world of Communism. We shall never turn off that road!? He further reassures his Communist colleagues: ?Comrades, do not be concerned about all that you hear about glasnost and perestroika and democracy in the coming years. These are primarily for outward consumption. There will be no significant internal change within the Soviet Union other than for cosmetic purposes. Our purpose is to disarm the Americans and let them fall asleep.?
BANKER: David Rockefeller Sept. 23, 1994 "This present window of opportunity, during which a truly peaceful and interdependent world order might be built, will not be open for too long - We are on the verge of a global transformation. All we need is the right major crisis and the nations will accept the New World Order." Sounds like an admission of guilt to September 11, 2001 and the other events after 1994!
Karl Wojtyla: AKA Pope John Paul II "By the end of this decade we will live under the first One World Government that has ever existed in the society of nations...a government with absolute authority to decide the basic issues of survival. One world government is inevitable."
George Herbert Walker Bush September 11, 1990: "Out of these troubled times, our? objective? a new world order? can emerge? Today, that new world is struggling to be born, a world quite different from the one we have known."
George Herbert Walker Bush: ?What is at stake is more than one small country, it is a big idea - a new world order...to achieve the universal aspirations of mankind...based on shared principles and the rule of law...The illumination of a thousand points of light...The winds of change are with us now.?
Originally posted by ConspiracyNut23
reply to post by red_leader
What would make you think the Guidestones are masonic?
What exactly are you standards to determine if something is Masonic?
Is the Hoover Dam masonic? The Statue of Liberty?
We know little about who commissioned the Guidestones, other than he used the pseudonym R.C. Christian. (Associated with Rosicrucians, not Masons)
[edit on 12/10/08 by ConspiracyNut23]
Originally posted by ConspiracyNut23
Originally posted by Brandon Levon
I now have two different people claiming two different locations.
You can enter the above location in Google Earth and you'll see the Guidestones. (not very clearly, but you clearly see Guidestones Road where they are located)
Brandon Levon and Seek4Truth, the coordinates are given at the top right of the Wiki article.
Originally posted by seek4 truth
I have now found lots of links backing your claim, here is another onewww.youtube.com...
It's not really surprising that people will not change their theory if the facts don't support it. It's sometimes easier to simply ignore the facts. (or in this case simply fudge the facts)
The location of an object is not a matter of opinion. It is or it isn't. Keep in mind that they're only about 24 minutes off. But, my question remains, why wouldn't they build it a bit further North?
Check out James Shelby Downard's King-Kill 33, to see how far this paranoia with #33 can go... (still an interesting read)
[edit on 14/10/08 by ConspiracyNut23]
Originally posted by ConspiracyNut23
reply to post by LeoVirgo
needs to be less people and there needs to be a unity with nature...basically I agree with all of the 'laws' given on the stones. We OBVIOUSLY can not run a world with all the people that we have...
So the neo-Malthusian would have us believe. In your opinion, how many of us can the Earth support? Do you have anything to back up that she can only support 500 million people?