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reply posted on 11-10-2008 @ 06:29 PM by TKainZero
Originally posted by RRconservative
The only one that got away with the ineptitude was Ray Nagin, he was re-elected Mayor of New Orleans. What does that say about the city of New Orleans?


One of a couple of things...
Either:

A. The people of New Orleans do not know what they are doing
B. Nagin just got lucky
C. Nagin Blamed everyone else... and they belived him


or to quote a horrible summer movie...

'hes got the color issue on his side...'


personaly, i think it is because of A... Just based on what i have seen from the evidence...


Also, RR, don't be afriad to watch the 27 min news bit...

Yea, it is the American Major Media... One of the talking heads, but just take it for what it is...
Study it if you may...
Its worth looking at... not worth the whole 27 mins... but there is some good photage in there.
Look to only get a mind set of the type of person. The person who suckles at the Goverment Handout...

Remember though, there is misfourtune there.
There are some people stayed not because they wanted to.
You got to feel for the elderly... but in turn, you must realise that it is ON THIER CHILDREN, and FAMILY..
Don't forget that last part.
Its just awful how many lifes were lost in Katrina. All those people should have been fine. But they didn't leave the area...

With our technolgoy today, satalights, radar, tracking, forcasts, cars, trains, planes, its so sad to see people not take it seriously and move inland...

In the 1800's early 1900's, ok, i get it..

You didnt know if a big ol strom was on ya until it hit...
Now, we are tracking disturbeces off the coast of africa, and seeing if they hit us, then giving them names...


There are nasty storms that hit the US every year.
Every year

New Orleans is just a city built below sea level...
This has always been a possiblity.
It just happen, and New Orleans just didn't take the percautions...

Next time they will...


reply posted on 11-10-2008 @ 06:54 PM by redhatty
Originally posted by TKainZero
Yea...

the city is situated in a bad place...
I cannot advise living in a place that is under sea level...


Forget that New Orleans has been people's home, for over 300 years, in all senses of the word. Forget the role that this city has played in the development of a uniquely American culture.

Our Jazz, food, and joie de vivre move few in the chattering classes to tears.

Sixty percent of the petroleum used in the nation is refined from New Orleans to Baton Rouge. Port Fouchon, the largest offshore oil port in the nation, was damaged by Katrina and Gustav, and its very existence impacts gas prices across the nation by some .20 to .30 cents per gallon.

The majority of American aquiculture occurs off the Louisiana coast. From fish to shellfish, if an American has a seafood dinner, chances are that it emerged off the coasts of South Louisiana.

Not to mention that the docks all the Mississippi River from the Gulf of Mexico through New Orleans to Baton Rouge constitute the largest Port in the World. Without these facilities and the vast population to operate them, the intermodal import and export of goods in North America would be crippled to a dangerous economic degree.

Yea...

the city is situated in a bad place...
I cannot advise living in a place that is under sea level...


Then, call for Houston to move. It stands as low as New Orleans, and is, in fact, closer to the Gulf.

Parts of Manhattan have fallen into the sea, and some experts believe that flooding could become a regular occurrence in the Big Apple for years to come. Then, move New York.

The levees failed in Cedar Rapids, Iowa, way above sea level. Maybe the farmers of the Midwest should also relocate?

Florida gets devastating Hurricanes more regularly than Louisiana. Maybe we should move Florida.

The low-lying ridge between Lake Pontchartrain and the Mississippi River may be the worst place in the world to put a city, but it is also the best. Our founder, Jean Baptiste Le Moyne, Sieur de Bienville, knew that the conflux of the river and the Gulf would provide the economic linchpin for most of North American.


People had chances to get out of the city.
They could have gone north into Mississippi
they could have moved west to Baton Rouge


You are repeating yourself, and yet, you still cannot give a way for this to occur. How do you "move" people who have no transportation of their own? How would you evacuate New York City to say.... Albany?

If your life is on the line, im sure you would do something...

you still don't get it do you? No one really believed their life was on the line. By the time that reality became reality, it was too late. It was ALMOST 24 HOURS AFTER THE STORM when the levees breached. No one had any reason to think they were in mortal danger until it was too late.

Also, you said there is public transport in NO, why couldn't that be used to get out of the city?

Because Orleans Parish transport only runs in Orleans Parish, then you have Jefferson Parish transport, which covers Metairie. No public transportation goes over lake Pontchartrain or to Baton Rouge.

Baton Rouge is pretty close... im sure there HAD to be some sort of transportation to that city...

You are wrong, they did establish a bus that ran from Baton Rouge to New Orleans AFTER Katrina, but non existed prior to the storm.
What about getting on a plane like most people did...
or just driving..

Covered that above, try again...
Getting on a boat probaly wouldnt have been a good idea, but heading west to Texas on boat several days before would have been fine

yeah, all those residents that didn't have a car, had a boat at the curb. Do you even realize how ridiculous you are sounding here? A BOAT from New Orleans to Texas? Sure, people sail through the gulf like that all the time... NOT

Rideing out a Hurricane is an experence that can only be had, not told.'
But you should be able to take care of yourself if you are going to do this...
You don't seen to want to accept that MOST of those who stayed did provide for themselves, they had supplies in the house, but the house ended up flooded almost 24 hours AFTER they thought everything was okay again

If waiting for Big Goverment to come save you is your first plan, then you have made a mistake...
Believe me, it was not anyone's first plan, and for many it was not even their choice.

Rather then sitting around waiting for Goverment to save them....
Yep, all those people flooded out of their homes onto the roofs were just sitting around waiting for the government to save them, yep, that was their plan, they all coordinated to suck off the teat of the system because they KNEW they were gonna get flooded in almost a day after the storm passed. Yep, you figured them all out, didn't ya?


reply posted on 11-10-2008 @ 06:56 PM by TARBOX
reply to post by TKainZero



Did you ever stop to think that a good portion of the people who stayed....had to because they were poor? Suppose they left...where were they suppose to go? Okay...so they get out of the city, but where do they stay and how do they eat? Believe it or not, but some people don't have the means to do the things that we do.

I can see your point...but only to a point. You may have the means to "get out" but some didn't because there was no way for them to and had no where to go.

Just saying.....


reply posted on 11-10-2008 @ 07:03 PM by The Revealer
reply to post by Simon_Boudreaux



Where were these people suppose to go then? They were poor and didn't have any other place to go to. It wasn't there fault that they stayed behind. I'm sure they wanted to leave but they couldn't.



[edit on 12-10-2008 by The Revealer]


reply posted on 11-10-2008 @ 07:22 PM by mystiq
reply to post by esdad71



In a civilized country, days before, evacuation would have meant, the government federally and locally, and with whatever services that existed, including army, using whatever vehicles they could, would have transported people from one hospital to others set up if necessary, and all the poor would have been given transport with workers going through every area. Why? Because thats its down in most democracies. Because the tax dollars are the peoples and serve the people and this isn't a primitive society. When a government fails to use the people resources to help the people its treason.


reply posted on 11-10-2008 @ 07:23 PM by bpg131313
As one of the First Responders (Firefighter) that responded to this disaster, I can tell you it was other-worldly. I had never seen the level of devastation I saw during my time there. We had to saw through trees blocking roads, we had to figure out ways to get parts of houses off the roads so we could get equipment in. It was a nightmare for us, and we were never told how many people we'd find once we arrived. Our site was Mobile, Alabama which also got destroyed by this hurricane, but few ever talk about it. Sadly, most of the attention was turned to New Orleans rather than to the entire region where literally everyone needed help. We saw the dead in the streets, we saw the floating coffins from the graveyards. We saw everything. It pains me to think we as a nation couldn't have gotten those people out of harms way before the hurricane arrived.

If one lesson is to be taken from all of this is is this: Always be prepared to do what you have to do in order to never have to depend on the US Government for assistance. Be prepared to drop everything and get out of Dodge. Have a bug-out-bag and maps always at the ready. Have places you could travel to already figured out. Your plans may not cover everything, but they are better than having no plan at all.

I hope people never have to go through something that devastating again, though I'm pretty sure many have already failed to learn from this and are therefore doomed to repeat it.


reply posted on 11-10-2008 @ 07:23 PM by Simon_Boudreaux
Originally posted by The Revealer
reply to
post by Simon_Boudreaux



Where were these people suppose to go then? They were poor and didn't have any other place to go to. It wasn't there fault that they stayed behind. I'm sure they wanted to leave but they couldn't.


If they truly wanted out they would have found a way. If myself and my family was faced with a situation like this I would have gotten out. Even if it meant pushing my family out in a shopping cart I would have found a way. My opinion is they stayed behind thinking they were going to loot and get them some free stuff. Just so happened the levee broke and threw a wrench in the works for them so instead of looting for televisions and other valuable items they ended up having to loot for survival needs.But they still got some free stuff didn't they. The lady in the video with all the pairs of shoes what was she going to do with those shoes? Eat them? Drink them? She said she needed to survive. With all those pairs of shoes?
The people on their roofs had me laughing. Could they not swim? Could they not find something that floats and make a get away from their roofs? These people should have taken it upon themselves to get out of the situation and instead they chose not to and to wait for someone else to get them out. And I should feel bad for them?


reply posted on 11-10-2008 @ 07:54 PM by TARBOX
reply to post by Simon_Boudreaux




Wow!!

I thought TKainZero was bad....

You sir, are a piece of work! To laugh with people stranded on their roofs and people dieing..... Sickening! The water was 1/2 sewage.

Just goes to show that there really are some people on this planet that don't care at all about others.

Your posts get the big



reply posted on 11-10-2008 @ 08:05 PM by americandingbat
reply to post by KaginD



I hadn't seen this video before – thanks for posting it. What happened in New Orleans should never be forgotten. Normally I'm disgusted by the tendency of the media to exploit potential or real disaster, but in this case I believe we are lucky there were media people there to cover it. Otherwise, we would never have known.

Those who don't understand cities where people do not have cars will probably never understand how difficult it can be to evacuate. I would write more but there is no use. I am as sickened by some of the responses as I was by the video.
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