posted on Oct, 11 2008 @ 12:55 AM
Why is it, we can't find out what to expect when we reach heaven in the Holy Bible? What would we do in heaven? Pluck harps? Gaze upon God?
British historian and author Paul Johnson says, "Heaven... lacks genuine incentive. Indeed, it lacks definition of any kind. It is the great hole
in theology." (The Quest for God, 1996, p.173). The Bible does not say the righteous will recieve heaven as their reward. The Bible reveals that
God has something else in mind... something far different and far superior to most people's concepts about heaven.
Ask yourself a simple question: Would a merciful God inflict excruciating pain and torment on human beings for millions and millions of years -
throughout all eternity? Could the great Creator God of the universe be that unfeeling and uncaring?
Traditional beliefs about heaven and hell are based on an underlying teaching... that everyone has an immortal soul that must go somewhere after the
physical life ends. What does the Bible say about the existence of an immortal soul? Does this belief have a foundation in scripture? The words
"immortal" and "soul" appear together nowhere in the Bible. If it isn't found in the Bible, where did the idea originate? Belief in the
separation of body and soul was popular in Greek society and was taught by the philosopher, Plato. In Plato's thinking, the soul.... "existed
before the body which it inhabited, and which it would survive." (Fudge, p.32). When did this concept enter christianity? The Old Testament does
not teach this idea. The first-century Church did not hold to this belief, either. It is a post-apostolic innovation that is harmful to proper
biblical interpretation and understanding. No biblical text authorizes the statement that the 'soul' is separated from the body at the moment of
death. Should we accept a teaching that is non-biblical?
The Old Testament teaches that the soul dies. Genesis 2:7 states that Adam became a "living soul" when created. In Genesis 9:12 the same Hebrew
words are translated "living creature" and refers only to animals, not humans. We are shown that man will "surely die" (Gen. 2:17) and that man
will "return to dust" (Gen. 3:19). In the Old Testament, man is referred to as a "soul" (Hebrew, nephesh) more than 130 times. The term also
applied to sea creatures (Gen. 1:20-21), land animals (verse 24) and birds (verse 30). Soul refers to any "living creature" as opposed to an
eternal separate essence temporarily inhabiting the body. Ezekiel 18:4 and 18:20 states "the sould who sins shall die." This shows the soul
"dies" and is a physical being. The scriptures tell us the dead do not have consciousness. "For the living know that they will die; but the dead
know nothing.... (Ecclesiastes 9:5).
The New Testament mentions permanent death for the wicked in several statements. In Matthew 7:13-14 in exhorting His disciples to choose the way that
leads to life. Jesus stated that the end of those who do not choose life is "destruction." Paul also stated that the wicked will die. In Romans
6:20-21 he talks about those who were slaves of sin and says that for them "the end of those things is death." Romans 6:23 plainly says "for the
wages of sin is death, but the gift of God is eternal life in Christ Jesus our Lord." This proves that the punishment of the wicked is death, not a
life of eternal suffering. It also proves that we do not already posess eternal life. It is something God chooses to give us. In 1 Timothy 6:16
Paul states that "God alon has immortality." In Galatians 6:8 Paul states "The one who sows to please his sinful nature, from that nature will
reap destruction; the one who sows to please the Spirit, from the Spirit will reap eternal life." This tells us that sinners will eventually reap
destruction and the obediant will recieve eternal life. In Philippians 3:18-19 Paul speaks of those who are "enemies of the cross of Christ." and
how their end is "destruction," and not eternal torment after death. In 2 Thessalonians 1:9 Paul says the wicked will come to a complete end:
"These shall be punished with everlasting destruction from the presence of the Lord..."
So, does man have an immortal soul? The Bible declares that man is temporary, of the dust of the earth. Immortality is only achieved through a
resurrection from God. 1 Corinthians 15:50-54 shows that immortality is only achieved at the resurrection, not at the end of one's physical life.
Now that the truth about immortal soul teachings has been uncovered let's look at one simple verse in the bible that proves no man other than Jesus
is in or will enter heaven:
John 3:13 "No one has ascended to heaven but He who came down from heaven, that is, the Son of Man who is in heaven.
Not enough proof? How about Acts 2:34 "For David did not ascend into the heavens....."
And then hellfire and the gnashing of teeth in torment.
In Matthew 25:30 it reads: 'And cast the unprofitable servant into the outer darkness. There will be weeping and gnashing of teeth.'
This verse references to Psalms 112:10 so let's see what that says:
"The wicked will see it and be grieved; He will gnash his teeth and melt away; The desire of the wicked shall perish.
Now word association shows that "gnashing of teeth" occurs followed by "melting away" and the "desire of the wicked... perish."
So you see, hellfire is a 2nd death.... not everlasting torment. All verses with hellfire mentioned or the punishment of wicked people refers to them
all perishing or being destroyed... not sufferring eternally.
-The Bible does not teach doctrine of an immortal soul
-The Bible teaches us that no man enters heaven but Jesus (John 3:13)
-The Bible teaches us that the wicked burn up and die... not suffer eternally (Malachi 4:3, Psalms 112:10)
There are many more references but let's see what people say about this bit of proof. On a side note, I am not interested in ridicule by an athiest
or scientologist. This thread was inteded for "self-proclaimed" christians and theologens. Civil comments are welcome by anyone though.