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Troopergate Report: Palin Abused Power

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posted on Oct, 11 2008 @ 10:59 AM
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Me too. If there was unlawful behavior there is a simple way to address it. File a complaint against the perpetrator and have the court deal with it. Or police internal affairs. Simple, done.




posted on Oct, 11 2008 @ 11:06 AM
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Originally posted by Heliodromus
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Which is well within her rights under the law, correct? What is the scandal here? Besides the fact this whole thing is being run by Obama supporters?



The report notes a few instances in which Palin pressed the case against trooper Mike Wooten, but it was her husband, Todd, who led the charge. Todd Palin had extraordinary access to the governor's office and her closest advisers and he used that access to try to get Wooten fired.

Gov. Palin knowingly "permitted Todd to use the Governor's office and the resources of the Governor's office, including access to state employees, to continue to contact subordinate state employees in an effort to find some way to get Trooper Wooten fired," Branchflower's report reads.


Is Todd the governor or is Sarah?

[edit on 11-10-2008 by davion]



posted on Oct, 11 2008 @ 11:22 AM
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Originally posted by Heliodromus
Which is well within her rights under the law, correct? What is the scandal here?


She does have the power to fire Monegan, yes.

It's everything else (the phone calls, emails, the harassment and the pressure that Todd and others in the Governor's office put on Monegan AT HER REQUEST) and the fact that she was disparaging the trooper that are illegal.



Besides the fact this whole thing is being run by Obama supporters?


You are misinformed or speaking out of willful ignorance because that is not true. "This whole thing" (the investigation) was started by a bipartisan committee (3 Republicans and 2 Democrats) way before she was even chosen as McCain's running mate. Obama has nothing to do with this.



posted on Oct, 11 2008 @ 11:24 AM
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Originally posted by Marcus Calpurnius
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You are the second person to imply Palin called Obama a terrorist. That never happened. You guys are making that up.



sir, read this loud and clear... if i said that you were associated and supported osama bin laden, im calling you a terrorist.

palin is doing the same with ayer



posted on Oct, 11 2008 @ 11:51 AM
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It's amazing how people's identies get lost in a political party.

Sarah Palin was found to have abused her power by 10 republicans and 4 democrats.

If this was a democrat V.P. the Republicans would be screaming at the top of their lungs but because she has an R next to her name they support her.

Democrats do the same thing and then they have the nerve to ask why these people in Washington are so corrupt.

It's because they know the people get so caught up in politics, all they have to do is use a phrase like political witch hunt and the LEMMINGS go crazy.

Hitler said:

"It's a fortunate thing for governments that the people don't think."

I think the politicians know how easy people will accept things just because of an R or a D and it's truly sad.



posted on Oct, 11 2008 @ 11:54 AM
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Ok - so she didn't do anything illegal but "abused her power".

She wanted a cop fired who according to the investigation did the following:

Shot a cow moose out of season.
Tasered his step-son.
Threatened to kill his father-in-law.
Threatened the Palin family.
Drove in his patrol car while drinking.

How often to cops protect their own no matter what they do?? All the time. You know it, I know it, everyone knows it.

It seems the guy she fired (Monegan) was just protecting a bad cop. He even called him "a good trooper." Even as independ. voter - I have no problem with her going after both Wooten for being a thug with a badge and Monegan for protecting him.



posted on Oct, 11 2008 @ 12:18 PM
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well its a good thing we aren't socialists then. i wouldn't want to be called a loser by someone who cant spell.



posted on Oct, 11 2008 @ 12:22 PM
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Originally posted by Frogs
Ok - so she didn't do anything illegal but "abused her power".


That's illegal.

Branchflower Report




Finding Number One

For the reasons explained in section IV of this report, I find that Governor Sarah Palin abused her power by violating Alaska Statute 39.52.110(a) of the Alaska Executive Branch Ethics Act. Alaska Statute 39.52.11(a) provides

"The legislature reaffirms that each public officer holds office as a public trust, and any effort to benefit a personal or financial interest through official action is a violation of that trust."


It goes on to say that she is allowed to fire him in execution of her duty. But she still broke the public trust.



posted on Oct, 11 2008 @ 12:26 PM
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Originally posted by Marcus Calpurnius
reply to post by bknapple32
 


You are the second person to imply Palin called Obama a terrorist. That never happened. You guys are making that up.


YOUR like the hundredth person to say that PALIN did not IMPLY Obama was a terrorist.
You guys are making that up!



posted on Oct, 11 2008 @ 12:29 PM
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Originally posted by Benevolent Heretic

That's not what happened. The guy who was fired was a very nice dude.
He was fired because he refused to fire the nasty dude.

Read the thread linked above if you want to know the story.


Just FYI.


On page 39 of the report it said Monegan dropped a picture off to be signed for a Memorial Day Ceremony. Guess who the officer was on the picture? Wooten.

Monegan claims not to know it was Wooten on the picture and I'm finding that kind of hard to believe to be honest. I'll admit, I can't prove it one way or the other. It just seems too much like a "jab" to be an honest mistake.



posted on Oct, 11 2008 @ 12:30 PM
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Oh goody. Both the Vice Presidential and Presidential candidates have rulings against them on ethics violations. McCain for trying to obstruct justice in the "Keating Five" scandal and now Palin in "Troopergate". That's the party I want to vote for, mmmmmm.



posted on Oct, 11 2008 @ 12:35 PM
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What some of you are forgetting is that abusing governmental power is ALWAYS perfectly legal because government power is derived directly from the law! So should we allow any abuse of power? You have to have some ethical standards as well as legal standards that government officials are held accountable to.



posted on Oct, 11 2008 @ 12:38 PM
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Originally posted by TheAgentNineteen
It is so blatant that this is nothing but politically motivated. Why release the findings within weeks of the Election?


These kinds of legal process normally go at a snails pace, but when said suspect is running for Vice-President, that pace picks up because of the urgency for the nation. The people and the state need to tie up all the loose ends before that person is allowed to get into power, even if that means the legal process determines that said candidate is guilty of crimes disqualifying them from the election.

So, that's why it's happening now - because if it happened later (after the election, and McCain/Palin won) then you can bet that McCain would just pardon Palin and end investigation in its tracks. End result being we could wind up with a corrupt criminal politician waiting for McCain to pass away so she could man the captains chair. That is a less than ideal scenario (understatement).

Is it political? Palin is a politician running for political office, of course it's political! What else were you expecting, scientific reasons?



posted on Oct, 11 2008 @ 12:42 PM
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I really don't think that it will have much of an impact on the election at this point. McCain is down in the polls way too much to catch Obama now. We are in for a big change. I don't think it will be a good on either.

I posted this on our local message board just a little while ago.

Is Barack Obama a member of the Council on Foreign Relations? Rumor has it that he is, but it’s not official. However, he does get huge support from other members of the CFR. His wife is a member. And he promotes the agenda of CFR (NAFTA, NAU, free-trade).

Barack Obama, along side George Bush, John McCain, Dick Cheaney, Michelle Obama, Hillary Clinton, John Edwards, Mike Huckabee, Mitt Romney, John McCain, and other faces featured by the mainstream media (which the CFR controls) are all members of or affiliated with the CFR and its anti-sovereignty agenda. So did many that lurk in the shadows like George Soros.

Here is a list of his top contributors.

Goldman Sachs $739,521
University of California $697,506
Harvard University $501,489
Citigroup Inc $492,548
Google Inc $487,355
JPMorgan Chase & Co $475,112
National Amusements Inc $432,169
Microsoft Corp $429,656
UBS AG $419,550
Lehman Brothers $391,774
Wilmerhale Llp $383,024
Time Warner $375,063
Sidley Austin LLP $370,916
Skadden, Arps et al $360,409
Stanford University $341,399
Morgan Stanley $341,380
Latham & Watkins $328,879
Jones Day $309,960
University of Chicago $294,237
General Electric $290,584

This is his profile page on the CFR website.
www.cfr.org...

Here is the speech he gave to the CFR in 2007
www.cfr.org...

This is the WikiPedia page
en.wikipedia.org...

Scroll down and read through the Corporate and notable members list.

Then read the page on the Trilateral Commission
en.wikipedia.org...

Then read the page on the Bilderbergers
en.wikipedia.org...

Vote for McCain or Obama. It does not matter. We are at the Dawn of a New World Order.



posted on Oct, 11 2008 @ 12:42 PM
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Originally posted by mythatsabigprobe
Oh goody. Both the Vice Presidential and Presidential candidates have rulings against them on ethics violations. McCain for trying to obstruct justice in the "Keating Five" scandal and now Palin in "Troopergate". That's the party I want to vote for, mmmmmm.


We must REFORM!

Yes John and Palin CAN!

They should focus on reforming themselves...

Palins credibility has gone down the shaft. She based her whole image on trust
and has been on the high moose talking down as such. Now we find out she has
been in violation of the "PUBLIC TRUST". But might we consider that we would not have to worry about her concern for the "PUBLIC" any ways. This seems to be what I am taking from this.

Private trust will do her just fine

THATS like pouring a gallon of gravy on a chocolate charlie and pretending it don't smell like a chocolate charlie...



posted on Oct, 11 2008 @ 01:09 PM
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Socialist....LOL!!!!!! Dude are you KIDDING ME!!!! I have seen more socialism in the past 8 years than any term since FDR. Give me a break.



posted on Oct, 11 2008 @ 01:16 PM
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I find it laughable that people are screaming PUBLIC TRUST, ETHICS VIOLATION, ABUSE OF POWER like Palin in the only politician to have done these things. For cryin' out loud, we have an entire Congress that has done the same, some worse than others.

I'm quite sure her abuse of office is relatively minor if compared to what some of the jackels in Congress have done.



posted on Oct, 11 2008 @ 01:28 PM
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Now she should be held accountable for her actions, which would be a win for conservatives and liberals and everyone in between, because this woman has abused her power and those who do seldom face the consequences, and non-politicians often do not experience that luxury.

For people saying this release is politically motivated, so what? First prove that the findings are not true, politically motivated or not every bit of this seems correct, and that is the point. I’m glad they released this before the election; do the American people not have the right to know this before placing her in the second most important job in the world?



posted on Oct, 11 2008 @ 01:29 PM
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Originally posted by inthesticks
I find it laughable that people are screaming PUBLIC TRUST, ETHICS VIOLATION, ABUSE OF POWER like Palin in the only politician to have done these things. For cryin' out loud, we have an entire Congress that has done the same, some worse than others.

I'm quite sure her abuse of office is relatively minor if compared to what some of the jackels in Congress have done.


Simple solution:

Do Not Vote for Either Candidate.

Both major parties are OWNED by the same people, get their monay from the same people and once they are in D.C. they vote the same way most of the time. If you want real change, vote for a third party candidate.



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