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Meltdown is a Fraud! They want to eliminate Cash.


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Topic started on 10-10-2008 @ 07:41 PM by muzzleflash


Ok, first I think I need to point something out.

Since our money is not backed by gold or silver anymore, and it is purely a legal tender for debt; the WORTH of MONEY is based 100% purely on your Imagination.

If you think your money is worth something, than it is.
If you think your money is a worthless piece of paper, than it becomes so.

Our monetary system is based purely on CONFIDENCE.

So , why would the Corporate Media be so hard core about freaking everyone out? Making everyone feel insecure, causing everyone to lapse into bouts of paranoia and panic??

First of all, why would international bankers, prop up a monetary system , use it for a century , then crash it on purpose??

Ok if you have done your homework around here, you would probably be jumping up yelling the answers at me already lol.

1) International Bankers "intrests" dominate Corporate Media
2) Corporate Media is creating a meltdown mentality by spreading hysteria, panic, paranoia and fear.

So basically what im saying is that since the TRUTH about MONEY is that its based Purely on CONFIDENCE (No resource backing it except our imagination) than it only follows that the Media knows what they are doing by CREATING a meltdown from scratch!

The bankers are using the media as their mouthpiece, to spread the hysteria. In a legitimate world, all of these people would be hauled off to prison for this type of crime. Its fraud on a scale never before seen lol. Im simply astonished.

Why tho? Why would they do this?

Perhaps, those frightening tales we have heard spoke of all too often in our other forums (NWO etc) ; could be true.

I know many people have wondered already, is this to bring in the Amero?

I will stand up right now and say it has become all to clear to me, that this is indeed the plan.

It may not be the Amero tho, they could just steamroll this into the new international "credits" system for all i know.

I wont say what the "new form of $$$" will be, because NONE of us know that. They could change it at the last minute, its just a minor detail.

I do want to make my accusations known to the world however.

I blame the banking elite for creating the meltdown outta thin air, only the serve their agenda for world domination. As if they didnt dominate it enough already (i mean geez they can crash the market and no one can figure out who did it)

The top familys have enough wealth to effectively buyout any companys stock or sell it off in such a way, they can control that section of the market, to an Extent.

Thats part of how they did it. Add in the constant media fearmongering, and by all means, dont forget that part where they keep saying"Just like the Great Depression"

What they really mean is "Do a bank run now !!!"

Crashing the economy today, would make rolling in a new system of finance extremely easy, if your the fat cat at the top of course.

I apoligize for rambling on about it, but im trying to get a simple point across to anyone who reads this.

1) Money is only worth what you "Think" its worth.
2) The media keeps saying its worth less everyday, fueling the frenzy.
3) The top bankers are silent thru this.

1+2+3 =6 ? well what could 6 possibly be?

6) A new currency system will be proposed to solve this crisis. And by that time, most people will be so screwed, they will accept anything to get out of it.

And did i hear someone say , verichip?



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reply posted on 10-10-2008 @ 08:13 PM by FewWorldOrder


I was thinking more that this is where the Amero is introduced, but as you point out, they could just as well be planning on implementing the Chip now. Bypassing another whole problem-reaction-solution phase that would be required to sway people from cash to the Chip.



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reply posted on 10-10-2008 @ 08:22 PM by eventHorizon


not yet,
first they will make our assets vanish with real estate
at the head. Then, when there is little left they will
debase our dollar, then they will appropriate gold, then
amero or whatever fake crap that is will be introduced.

phases, my friend - you're jumping tooooo fast.



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reply posted on 10-10-2008 @ 08:28 PM by Reevster


I dont know for sure but I have that feeling that what you say is near spot on, everytime G Bush go on TV and opens his mouth I get that feeling that I am being lied too. So then if they are spewing lies then I feel that somthing big is about to happen.
Something else that bugs me is when all these financial companys have adds on TV to buy , invest etc , like this whole meltdown is not happening. WTH do they think , people are going to want even more stocks/ funds that are not worth the paper they are written on?



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reply posted on 10-10-2008 @ 08:30 PM by muzzleflash


Originally posted by eventHorizon
not yet,
first they will make our assets vanish with real estate
at the head. Then, when there is little left they will
debase our dollar, then they will appropriate gold, then
amero or whatever fake crap that is will be introduced.

phases, my friend - you're jumping tooooo fast.



lets see

real estate assets gone - check

dollar debased - check

gold consolidated - check

looks like those 3 stages are already in motion and or almost done with

so , what about the 4th one?



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reply posted on 10-10-2008 @ 09:07 PM by NOTurTypical


Originally posted by Reevster
I dont know for sure but I have that feeling that what you say is near spot on, everytime G Bush go on TV and opens his mouth I get that feeling that I am being lied too. So then if they are spewing lies then I feel that somthing big is about to happen.
Something else that bugs me is when all these financial companys have adds on TV to buy , invest etc , like this whole meltdown is not happening. WTH do they think , people are going to want even more stocks/ funds that are not worth the paper they are written on?


LOL, just Bush??

I get that feeling ANYTIME a politician goes on camera. Have you noticed the approval rating of Congress lately? Congressmen and Senators only WISH they had Bush's approval ratings.

I feel the same watching the debates, the guy who creates the most lies with the straightest face is dubbed the "winner". And folks like Ron Paul who tell the truth are rejected....

LOL as if this was just Bush.



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reply posted on 10-10-2008 @ 09:13 PM by IMAdamnALIEN


And all the new FEMA camps that sprung up around the country are holding/implantation stations. The new form of currency will be in the form of digital credit. You will be implanted if you want to continue on with your life, if not, then back to the wild for you.

Personally, I choose the wild....

Sounds like an adventure. Certainly a life changing experience.

I look forward to the upcoming collapse!



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reply posted on 10-10-2008 @ 09:22 PM by ghostlandseller


Yeah i doubt were heading for an AMERO, but i do suspect a possible one world currency.

i was hearing it discussed on CNBC the other night that the Euro was in real danger and that it might actually fail if it continues do lose its value. If the Euro fails do you think there going to jsut let each country go back to their initial currency, doubt it. i also doubt they will go to another amero. also with the US economy on the brinks. Our dollar is gaining strength so the feds are printing tons of money to keep it where its at, but if our stock markets do recover we will go through a period of hyperinflation due to the money thats gprinted right now to prevent our current deflation.

This could crash out currency. We think the problem is over when the market rebounds, but that will be the trigger the ruins our currency and then inturn ruins our stock market. So what we all are wanting will also be the death of us.

Its kinda of a lose lose situation right now.

So after our economy crashed and out dollar is worthless, we will be giving a noew world currency. Seems the most likely. especially with the poor performance and rejection of the euro.



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reply posted on 10-10-2008 @ 09:40 PM by amatrine


Star and flagged. I think so too. My husband keeps telling me to be optimistic about the future, but I can't. I see prophecy coming true .

I think the term Amero originated in an evangelistic tv show that has become a common term. I do not think it will happen. Chip? You bet ya. With a global depression, I fear the next thing will be a nuclear strike to finalize it. Kick em when they are down.

Not trying to fear monger, but it is what I really think.



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reply posted on 10-10-2008 @ 09:42 PM by amatrine


Here is the link to that Glen Beck video:

www.godlikeproductions.com...



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reply posted on 10-10-2008 @ 09:47 PM by Simplynoone


I just posted this on another thread ..but I believe it could apply to this post too.



Behind the Panic: Financial Warfare and the Future of Global Bank Power
(just a snip from it )

Why did Henry Paulson single out one Wall Street firm, a bitter rival of his when he was CEO of Goldman Sachs according to market reports, and let it, as his mentor Erlichman was fond of saying, ‘to twist in the wind.’ It is the Lehman Bros. unwinding and its huge portfolio of Credit Default Swaps which is reportedly leading hedge funds and banks around the globe into panic selloffs.

It now would appear that the Paulson strategy was to use a crisis—a crisis that was pre-programmed and predictable as far back as 2003 when Josh Bolten became head of OMB—when it exploded, to panic the more conservative European Union governments into rushing to the rescue of US toxic waste assets.

Were that to have happened, it would in the process destroy what was left of sound EU banking and financial institutions, bringing the world one step closer to a global money market controlled by Paulson’s cronies—US-style Crony Capitalism. Crony Capitalism is certainly appropriate here. Paulson’s predecessor at both Goldman Sachs and at Treasury, Robert Rubin, liked to accuse the Asian bankers of Thailand, Indonesia and other lands hit with the speculative attacks of US-financed hedge funds in 1997 of ‘crony capitalism,’ leaving the impression the crisis was home grown in Asia and not the result of a deliberate executed attack by US-financed financial institutions to eliminate the Asia Tiger model among other goals, and turn Asia into the funder of US debt.

Interesting to note is that Rubin is now a Director of Citigroup, obviously one of Paulson’s crony bank ‘survivors,’ and the bank which to date has had to write off the largest sum in toxic waste securitized assets.

If the allegation of pre-planned panic, a la the Panic of 1907 is accurate, and it is a big if, then the plan worked…up to a point. That point came over the weekend of October 3, coincidentally the national unification holiday of Germany.
www.globalresearch.ca...
Go to link to read the entire article .



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reply posted on 10-10-2008 @ 09:50 PM by NOTurTypical


Originally posted by amatrine
Star and flagged. I think so too. My husband keeps telling me to be optimistic about the future, but I can't. I see prophecy coming true .

I think the term Amero originated in an evangelistic tv show that has become a common term. I do not think it will happen. Chip? You bet ya. With a global depression, I fear the next thing will be a nuclear strike to finalize it. Kick em when they are down.

Not trying to fear monger, but it is what I really think.


The Bible has said what will happen in this next dark, evil decade for almost 2,000 years. Heck, Daniel said this stuff 4,000 years ago.

The only ones who need fear the future are the ones who do not know the Lord Jesus Christ. And the Christians who's "seeds" fell on the rocks and the thorns.



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reply posted on 10-10-2008 @ 09:53 PM by NOTurTypical


reply to post by Simplynoone



Government "bailouts' have nothing to do with Capitalism. Using taxpayer money to "buy" company stocks has nothing to do with Capitalism.

These are Socialist ventures.



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reply posted on 10-10-2008 @ 10:33 PM by amatrine


The bible never says there will be an amero.

The mark it says. That I see coming.

Ama



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reply posted on 11-10-2008 @ 07:33 AM by Jinni


Originally posted by muzzleflash
Ok, first I think I need to point something out.

Since our money is not backed by gold or silver anymore, and it is purely a legal tender for debt; the WORTH of MONEY is based 100% purely on your Imagination.

If you think your money is worth something, than it is.
If you think your money is a worthless piece of paper, than it becomes so.

Our monetary system is based purely on CONFIDENCE.

So , why would the Corporate Media be so hard core about freaking everyone out? Making everyone feel insecure, causing everyone to lapse into bouts of paranoia and panic??

First of all, why would international bankers, prop up a monetary system , use it for a century , then crash it on purpose??

Ok if you have done your homework around here, you would probably be jumping up yelling the answers at me already lol.

1) International Bankers "intrests" dominate Corporate Media
2) Corporate Media is creating a meltdown mentality by spreading hysteria, panic, paranoia and fear.

So basically what im saying is that since the TRUTH about MONEY is that its based Purely on CONFIDENCE (No resource backing it except our imagination) than it only follows that the Media knows what they are doing by CREATING a meltdown from scratch!

The bankers are using the media as their mouthpiece, to spread the hysteria. In a legitimate world, all of these people would be hauled off to prison for this type of crime. Its fraud on a scale never before seen lol. Im simply astonished.

Why tho? Why would they do this?

Perhaps, those frightening tales we have heard spoke of all too often in our other forums (NWO etc) ; could be true.

I know many people have wondered already, is this to bring in the Amero?

I will stand up right now and say it has become all to clear to me, that this is indeed the plan.

It may not be the Amero tho, they could just steamroll this into the new international "credits" system for all i know.

I wont say what the "new form of $$$" will be, because NONE of us know that. They could change it at the last minute, its just a minor detail.

I do want to make my accusations known to the world however.

I blame the banking elite for creating the meltdown outta thin air, only the serve their agenda for world domination. As if they didnt dominate it enough already (i mean geez they can crash the market and no one can figure out who did it)

The top familys have enough wealth to effectively buyout any companys stock or sell it off in such a way, they can control that section of the market, to an Extent.

Thats part of how they did it. Add in the constant media fearmongering, and by all means, dont forget that part where they keep saying"Just like the Great Depression"

What they really mean is "Do a bank run now !!!"

Crashing the economy today, would make rolling in a new system of finance extremely easy, if your the fat cat at the top of course.

I apoligize for rambling on about it, but im trying to get a simple point across to anyone who reads this.

1) Money is only worth what you "Think" its worth.
2) The media keeps saying its worth less everyday, fueling the frenzy.
3) The top bankers are silent thru this.

1+2+3 =6 ? well what could 6 possibly be?

6) A new currency system will be proposed to solve this crisis. And by that time, most people will be so screwed, they will accept anything to get out of it.

And did i hear someone say , verichip?



I totally agree that something stinks and it sounds like a set-up without a doubt.

Exactly WHAT is the goal is uncertain but two things are for sure: THE PEOPLE are going to be deeply screwed and the "deviant powers that be" will get even stronger.

What can we do?

Who will gain



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reply posted on 11-10-2008 @ 07:37 AM by SnowCone


Originally posted by muzzleflash
Ok, first I think I need to point something out.


ENOUGH SAID!

I monitor the "Global Meltdown" forum daily with torches and pitchforks under my bed, but this post FINALLY did it.

Who do I kill Muzzle?

Who. Do. I. Kill?



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reply posted on 11-10-2008 @ 07:52 AM by Jinni


Well, those responsible without a doubt are:

Mr. NWO & Co.

All hand in hand...


[edit on 11-10-2008 by Jinni]



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reply posted on 11-10-2008 @ 07:59 AM by SnowCone


EXCELLENT response Jinni.

But are you sure Jesus and ATS aren't in on it too?



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reply posted on 11-10-2008 @ 08:05 AM by AGENT_T


reply to post by SnowCone



Nooo. Jesus was with me.. We have an alibi.Kings Arms..

www.abovetopsecret.com...

How about trading all your debt just to get you to accept the chip for all future transaction.



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reply posted on 11-10-2008 @ 08:08 AM by Jinni


Originally posted by SnowCone
EXCELLENT response Jinni.

But are you sure Jesus and ATS aren't in on it too?


Good question!

The 'previous' banking system would only last so long due to it's flaws so perhaps something like this was going to happen anyway. BUT, there is plenty of evidence of how Governments and Media have helped and facilitated the downward spiral. Remember it's all about CONFIDENCE. If people are not confident to keep money in the bank or trade then we end up in the situation we are in (thanks to mass media).

I think it is an INTENTIONAL collapse that won't hurt the powers that be but it will hurt you (they like that). (Funny, that reminds me of the twin towers ).

I'm sure Jesus would disapprove of current\previous banking practices and the people BEHIND them.

[edit on 11-10-2008 by Jinni]

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