Originally posted by Contagion2012


The LA Riots happened in the GHETTO. If it had spilled over into the suburbs, there would have been a completely different outcome. Those in the ghetto were just trying to make a point, KILL WHITEY. BTW, should we outlaw bricks? Considering that guy they pulled out of his truck and slammed a brick into his skull on LIVE TV.

If it's not guns, it's knives. Not knive's, then spears and arrows. Not those, it would be clubs. Not clubs, then rocks. Not rocks, then bare hands.

The problem isn't weapons. The problem is humanity's inherant disposition to violence. We have always been this way, and we always will be. With my gun, I at least level the playing field if someone so chooses to 'schedule a game.'

So the ghetto is not part of America? I do not understand your logic there. It matters not where it happend. Bricks are irrelevant. Read what I was responding to

We are supposed to believe that the riots in France happend because the people were unarmed. Ok...well there were plenty of arms in L.A. and it still happend here.

Deflect and derail all you like. The point was that it happend in France because of a lack of guns. I am pointing out that it can happen in the face of plenty of guns too.

I live in Texas and know there are many real patriots here that want the America we grew up with. However,change is always inevitable and you must be prepared for that.

Do you really believe your govt will protect you when the SHTF? It is better to have a gun and not need it than not having one when you really need it. The crime rate went up when England instituted gun control so that is not the answer.

When times are uncertain the strongest survive and that could be gang rule in your town or city. They are better organized and armed to the teeth. I for one will not stand idly by wishing I had a weapon when a group of thugs attacks my family.

They will only take my gun away from my cold,dead hands-Charlton Heston

[edit on 10-10-2008 by seabisquit]

Hmm... Interesting, noboby has rebutted me, guess you can't argue with logic eh?

Gun ownership is a right though, read the Constitution, it's a right, not a privilege.

You see, owning a gun is a right, but what you do with it is what matters, there's two sides to everything, you can use a gun to hunt for food, you can also use that same gun to shoot your neighbor in the head, you can also use that gun to defend against your neighbor from getting shot in the head by some assailant.

Check this out folks, you can also shoot someone and not kill them, yep, you can shoot someone in the foot and stop them from harming you or anyone else.

Fact is, if we both have weapons, we're much less likely to attack each other, neither one of us wants to get hurt (unless one of us is crazy or something), if I shoot you, you shoot me, vise versa.

But with that said, like I said before, I'd never shoot anyone, not even to save my own life, I believe violence never solves problems, it only makes them worse, however if I'm armed, you are much more less likely to attack me, so I can present my logic to you for why you should not attack me, it give me a better chance at showing you a better way to live, if you know that attacking me can cause you more harm, you're more willing to listen to what I have to say.

Bad guys will always have guns, disarming the good guys is a bad idea.

-Lahara

I guess it just seems sad that a thread about patriotism has become an ad for the NRA. Anyone that thinks owning a gun is all it takes to be a true patriot is no American. The constitution and pride in that should have come up at least once if not been more central instead of concentrating on the least sophisticated and most barbaric single caveat that completely epitomizes the hill-billy image the rest of the world gives us. I guess I just hoped to come here and see pages of what makes America so great and what makes it such a place to be proud of. Instead I get pages about gun ownership. How sad.

Originally posted by TheRandom1
Hmm... Interesting, noboby has rebutted me, guess you can't argue with logic eh?

Gun ownership is a right though, read the Constitution, it's a right, not a privilege.



-Lahara

well, i will say this then. gun ownership is difficult for an Ex-con. you can have your rights stripped in a court of law quicker than wood through a chipper.

responsible citizens are able to fall back upon that right by being *jazz hands* responsible citizens.

THE LA RITOS HAPPENED IN MINORITY COMMUNITIES. THEY ATTACKED MINORITY OWNED BUSINESSES. THE LA RIOTS WERE, TO THE GOVERNMENT, POP ROCKS IN A SODA CAN.

in 1992 they didnt have interweb, and racism between:

ASIAN/BLACK/HISPANIC escalated out of control

[edit on 10-10-2008 by drsmooth23]

Originally posted by Simplynoone
...especially some 20 or so yr old lost kid who just wants to steal your stuff >>>) >>....
[edit on 10-10-2008 by Simplynoone]

How did you know I'm a 20 or so yr old???

Well, I got's to get to bed.

God Bless,

-Lahara

" Because in your hearts you KNOW it isnt right to kill ..and actually killing someone I am sure would mess you up mentally for the rest of your life "

When you have a choice between defending your life or your family's life against certain death you will choose to kill (not murder) in self-defense. How will you do that without a gun? Even the best kung-fu master would choose the gun.




[

[edit on 10-10-2008 by seabisquit]

Originally posted by dr_strangecraft


First, I need a gun to hunt, which feeds my growing family with meat that would otherwise cost an additional $750 a year in grocery bills. I am compensating for something alright; for not owning my own herd of cattle!

So, what, you go out and shoot other peoples cattle?

Originally posted by Simplynoone

I also believe someone else made an excellent point ..What happened to all the gun toteing Americans during the LA RIOTS ? I would like to hear that answer myself ..

Actually, the LA RIOTS didn't spread because of local gun owners, who helped their neighbors use their vehicles to barricade streets. I remember seeing footage of pickups full of would-be rioters pulling up to a cul-de-sac, at which point the inhabitants held up deer rifles. The pickup quickly drove off.

I think some of the gun owners were even charged with deadly conduct, for recklessly displaying their shootin' irons.

There was also a Korean store owner, who kept rioters from stealing his stuff by climbing up on his roof and offering to pick off anyone who entered his store.


The sad fact is, criminals have no respect for any threat that doesn't involve grave bodily injury. Having worked in law enforcement, I can assure you that real criminals have absolutely no fear of prison. And in most venues, breaking and entering is not even a felony---meaning they won't even lose their right to own a gun !!!!!.