To anyone who suggests that the Second Amendment is no longer applicable, with the assumption that we now have a civilized society, that person is an idiot.

We have many more savages in North America than when our forefathers first set foot here. If you don't know this, you are ignorant. If disbelieve this, you are willfully ignorant.

Look, I like for folks to be what they want to be. Stupid, in denial, ignorant, cowardly, fearful, uncoordinated, or a full time idiot. But your opinion of the right and preference we have in the US for gun ownership is our business.

You don't have to like it, you don't have to understand, you don't have to find it tasteful. You don't have to defend yourself. You don't have to use deadly force. Just don't deny me that privilege and right.

Add to that - we are being invaded.

L.A. County alone has 10.2 million people, 40% of which work for cash. And you know what a lot of that would be. 95% of all warrants in LA County for murder are for illegal aliens. 75% of the Most Wanted in LA are for illegals. 2/3rds of all LA births are to illegal aliens, mostly on Medi-Cal, paid for by citizens. 35% of all inmates in California detention centers are illegal Mexicans. 2% are picking crops. 29% are on welfare. 29% of all federal inmates are illegals.

Fine, upstanding folks, these illegal immigrants.

As you can see, California gun laws are apparently a bit too restrictive on their population.

I dont think that its necessarily blind patriotism. Patriotism to me is a good thing, believing in the original viewpoint of what America was meant to be. Equality and liberty and freedom for all is an incredible idea, but sadly it has never been fully implemented.

I think the more proper term is devout nationalism. Nationalism in any sense is disturbing to me, it is a separation based off of lines drawn by some person on a map. The majority of American citizens are devout nationalists but to me are in no sense patriots. They would not fight and die for the values of freedom, so they do not deserve to be called such.

Patriotism doesn't bother me at all, and in fact I think that patriotism is healthy. Nationalism on the other hand... *shiver*

Illegals are not just taking the crappy jobs that Americans don't want. They are sucking the life out of our country, milking our welfare system, and breaking our healthcare system.

The bulk don't pay taxes, don't learn English, and don't give a damn about our laws.

Normally, when you get a leech on you, you knock it off or burn it off, but you get rid of the bloodsuckers! Any parasite. And these Mexican illegals are like ticks - once they get their heads buried in, you play hob getting rid of them.

Texas fought for its independence with Mexico and won that independence, becoming an independent Republic. Only later did it join the US. Mexico got its ass kicked and we picked up additional territory.

What happens is when you go to war and lose, you generally lose territory. At least that's the way it worked for the past several millennia.

Remember the Holy Roman Empire? Remember Yugoslovia? How about Rhodesia? Part of Britain used to be French, part of France used to be British, on and on.

It doesn't matter what something used to be in decades and centuries past.

You want to be part of this country, then be part of it, embrace it's values, and become yet another patriotic citizen.

You just want to suck from the system, take your ass home.

Yes, yes, of course. The white man has a long track of warlike behavior. Just one little problem. The Indians who met the Anglos at the shore - in turn had kicked out earlier populations, who in turn had kicked out earlier populations, on and on.

It's the way it is. Don't cherry pick your predators. It does you no service, and it changes nothing.

All history is defined by conquest. Anywhere you look, any period of time.

Right and wrong don't enter into the equation.

There are winners, and there are losers.

Hopefully, the losers are peacefully integrated with honor into the winner's new society. And that's about the best you can hope for.

Wikipedia defines it:

A patriot is someone who thinks/feels patriotism, support for their country.

Patriotism is commonly defined as love of and/or devotion to one's country. The word comes from the Latin patria, and Greek patritha"

The emphasis here is on the devotion to the country. So i am gonna venture to guess that blind patriots are those who support the leader/leaders. Like patriots they are loyal to a fault, never questioning or doubting in what they believe in. Funny thing about this is that both sides see themselves as in the rite and the other guy as a quack.

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What scares me is stupidity and complexity. On the one hand, our population is becoming more and more ignorant and illiterate. On the other hand, goverment is becoming more and more complex.

The 2nd scaryist thing to me is hearing an ignorant, system abusing 'disabled' mom yacking her mouth about politics and every word is something I recognize exactly word for word right from the most partisan of pundits....to make it worse, her idea of fixing the economy entirely centers on her thinking our government is run like her 25k a year household economy.... It tells me that normally a lot of people do not even try to THINK for themselves, and when they do, they FAIL....which leads to my fear of the monster wave of anti-intellectualism that has this country firmly in it's grip.

The most scary thing though, to me, is the fact that we've let corporations get so big and complex and powerful that letting ONE of them 'go down' threatens our national security? WTH

It is time to reevaluate our threats and our enemies!

Corporations quietly running our government is much, much more scary to me than about anything else.

So how does one loving their country, scare some one?
We can love our country, and not support the government. Patriot/ism has nothing to do with government. Leaders can be any one the people look towards, elect or not.

Mark Twain once wrote:

"In a republic, who is 'The Country?' Is it the government which is for the moment in the saddle? Why, the government is merely a temporary servant; it cannot be its perrogative to determine what is right and what is wrong, and decide who is patriot and who isnt. Its function is to obey orders, not originate them. Who then is 'The Country?' Is it the newspaper? Is it the pulpit? Why these are mere parts of the country, not the whole of it; they have not command, they have only thier little share in the command. In a monarchy, the King and his family are the country; in a republic, it is the common voice of the people, each of you, for himself, by himself and on his own responsibility, must speak. It is a solemn and weighty responsibility, and not lightly to be flung aside at the bullying of the pulpit, press, government, or the empty catchphrases of politicians. Each must for himself alone decide what is right and what is wrong, and which course is patriotic and which isnt. You cannot shirk this and be a man. To decide it against your convictions is to be an unqualified and inexcusable traitor, both to yourself and to your country, let men label you as they may. If you alone of all the nation decide one way, and that way be the right way according to your convictions of the right, you have done your duty by yourself and by your country. Hold up your head. You have nothing to be ashamed of."

This was what he believed to be a patriot. IMO it also serves to remind us what roles the press, the church and the government was meant to play in our country even if they dont now.

Also IMO, patriots/patriotism would only scare people that are loyal to the church, the press or the government. This is because a patriot, who would try and preserve his country, can see that those three before mentioned groups do not always have the countries best interest in mind even though they would have us believe so, and is unafraid to speak out or take action to expose or stop them to protect the country.

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