reply to post by Merriman Weir
Merriman, I've read your posts, and on this particular thread, it primarily concerns Americans, their patriotism, and gun ownership. According to
what I can determine, you live in England, and are female.
What, precisely, interest of yours is it what we in the US do, here in the US? Does anything we do here, more specifically, does our patriotism, our
guns, our gun ownership, our Constitution, or our personal preferences take any food off your plate?
Your ongoing argument seems to be against personal gun ownership, and you time and again support this preference by stating our military force, using
planes, tanks, artillery, bombs, and the like would easily overwhelm any civilian resistance. Time and again you state that firearms in the hands of
civilians would not be enough to use against a powerful military, therefore private ownership of weapons is unjustified. One hole in this argument of
yours is that our US military consists of young Americans. So you can give this worn-out argument a rest. An all-out assault by our military on our
civilians, and thus our civilian militia simply isn't going to happen.
Have you ever called in or adjusted artillery while under fire? Have you ever patrolled against armed opposing forces? Have you ever engaged an
enemy multiple times, under multiple conditions, in multiple terrain? What's the best tactic against guerrillas in a jungle? A marsh? A forest?
Mountains? A city? While traveling? During rain, what does this do for either side? What's the longest shot you ever took that resulted in a
There's another thing to think about with your assumptions concerning the ability of our military to rule here in our country. We had 500,000 troops
in Viet Nam. Lots of helicopters, gunships, fighters, bombers, artillery - you name it. This is in a country of 331,000 square kilometers. England
by contrast is 243,000 square kilometers, which is the same size as our state of Michigan.
The US is 9.8 million square kilometers. That 500,000 we had in Vietnam is fully one-third of our current military.
In Vietnam, every time a patrol left a firebase, they immediately were in "Injun Country," subject to ambush and attack 24/7. Here's the kicker.
The Vietnamese as a people were unarmed.
You are comparing marbles to pumpkins.
While anyone can get information on warfare, weapons, and statistics, I don't see where your personal experiences give you any particular insight.
You can throw all the hypothetical assumptions you want to out there, but the real world is a bit different. Everyone who's served in combat in the
military knows that that meticulous plan goes to hell in the first moments of contact.
Not one, single American gun owner is bothering you personally. We aren't shooting up your land. We aren't threatening you. We aren't even in
your country. So why in hell would American patriotism, or American gun owners terrify you? That makes no sense.
The last time Americans came in number to your country, we brought millions of guns, and I don't recall a lot of complaining.
Quite simply, you don't have a dog in this fight. You don't even have a dog on this continent.