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Originally posted by Merriman Weir
Why is the legality of the weapons such a big issue here?
If legality was the issue because it was somehow being compared to say, killings occurring the USA due to legal or illegal guns with a regard to responsible gun ownership or something, then I could understand. However, the point appears to be that, when the time comes, and someone is attempting to repel an invading or despotic force, then it whether the gun was bought legally or obtained illegally makes little difference. It's still a 'bang bang stick that shoots nasty men'.
Originally posted by TruthTellist
A most eloquent post dooper....
You are an example of a Real Patriot; Politically Informed, Well Regulated Arms, And a recognizable admiration of the The Constitution and Bill of Rights.
I wish I had a neighbour like you..
People of the quality of the OP will not understand this. In fact, such people would hate to have such a neighbour and it would probably cause them to lose sleep at night.... which is strange, because having just One of you in the area would be like having a Cop parked down the block all night - and a Good cop at that.
Originally posted by blueorder
because that is what we are discussing, I am not discussing weapons held by drug dealers, pimps and gangsters and nor am I suggesting these should be anything other than confiscated- I personally agree with legally held weaponry for two reasons
* greater chance of preventing tyranny than wielding a kitchen knife
* defending against criminals
win win I say, kudos to the yanks.
You fall into the mistake of not finding perfection and therefore dismissing, this is earth, nothing is perfect but some things are better than others
Originally posted by Thebudweiserstuntman
Before you even try and refute it here is your thread for everyone here to see;
In my experience, The primary reason (after profits) that so many children and people in general are unnecessarily and over-medicated is to preclude them from firearms ownership.
If I prescribe an anti-psychotic, SSRI or even a benzodiazapine, that person will never be able to own a gun as they will not pass the background checks. I warn all my patients of this fact.
Here is what you said. That doesn't sound ethical to me, it sounds like someone with paranoia pushing his pro gun attitude onto people with mental health problems.
'I could prescribe you your medication but, you know, you won't be able to get a gun.'
Originally posted by Merriman Weir
I'm not looking for "perfection", just an American who isn't deluded into thinking that they can take on a better-trained, better-armed, better-equipped, more experienced American military with handguns or rifles.
Seriously, these Americans who believe they could take on and win their own military should be asking the American government what's happening with their tax dollars that are earmarked for the military. Are they burning them to heat Generals' offices or something? Because it seems to me that, if what people are saying is true, the Americans are wasting countless billions on a military that can be taken down by a generally untrained, poorly-armed population with generally no combat experience.
Again, I find it absolutely bizarre that I'm standing up for the American military here.
Originally posted by dooper
reply to post by Thebudweiserstuntman
Hey bud, you still don't get it. My point at all times is that the ability of self-defense is a personal responsibility. If you don't want to assume that responsibility, fine. Your choice. But if you find yourself in a hatchet fight and you're the only one without a hatchet, well, it was nice knowing you.
When everyone had nothing but rocks, the first guy with a spear ruled. When everyone who had spears, the man with the bow ruled. When everyone had spears and bows, the man with the firearm ruled.
I have no intention of being ruled. You just have at it though.