American Patriotism Terrifies me!!, page 2
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reply posted on 10-10-2008 @ 07:44 PM by Thebudweiserstuntman
reply to post by Grumble



Aww c'mon! cold dead fingers?

To be honest that's prob the most likely result!


reply posted on 10-10-2008 @ 07:49 PM by argentus
reply to post by Contagion2012



Thank you. Thank you for expressing the angst that I've held for so long. Yes, I'm the rotten wingnut that voted for Bush in the first election. No, I was not the whackamole that did so again. I simply didn't vote, as the alternative was worse, IMO. Thus, I loose the right to complain.

Appreciate your perspective. Well said.

Cheers



reply posted on 10-10-2008 @ 07:58 PM by Thebudweiserstuntman
reply to post by skeptic1



Is there honestly such a thing as 'responsible' ownership of guns? A gun is a thing that can end a life in a second. If someone is stealing your widescreen tv, does that one second of hate you have equate to taking a life? I've had a $5000 motorbike stolen from me and If i got a hold of the bastard I'd have shot him in the face in an instance, no question. But to be honest, two years later, is a peice of metal worth a life? with or without insurance? Yeah i got the money back, but to be honest i'm a pretty hard ass. I kn oe I would have regretted any spur of the moment action over 'property' which essentially means nothing.


reply posted on 10-10-2008 @ 08:00 PM by Contagion2012
Originally posted by Thebudweiserstuntman
reply to
post by skeptic1



Is there honestly such a thing as 'responsible' ownership of guns? A gun is a thing that can end a life in a second. If someone is stealing your widescreen tv, does that one second of hate you have equate to taking a life? I've had a $5000 motorbike stolen from me and If i got a hold of the bastard I'd have shot him in the face in an instance, no question. But to be honest, two years later, is a peice of metal worth a life? with or without insurance? Yeah i got the money back, but to be honest i'm a pretty hard ass. I kn oe I would have regretted any spur of the moment action over 'property' which essentially means nothing.


First off, someone killing another person for stealing, would NOT qualify as a responsible gun owner. However, if someone came into my house and tried to rape my wife, I guarantee you I would be more than happy to take his life. What would you do in that situation? Would you tell him once he is finished, you children are in the other room, if he wants a go at them as well??


reply posted on 10-10-2008 @ 08:00 PM by Thebudweiserstuntman
reply to post by Contagion2012



You're really missing the point of this thread dude.

read up.

and to be honest the whole iceland thing is humping us - i've lost a whole lot of pootential work cos of it. Does that make you happy cos its not the good 'ol US?

Think beofre you reply. Please.


reply posted on 10-10-2008 @ 08:03 PM by Thebudweiserstuntman
reply to post by Contagion2012



Dude, if someone was raping my wife or threatining my kids i can GUARANTEE you it wouldn't take a gun for me to end his life.

Most British people can acquire a gun for around £300.

Most people don't.

What does that tell you?


reply posted on 10-10-2008 @ 08:09 PM by Thebudweiserstuntman
reply to post by Contagion2012



As a famous British song goes;

'Gun's don't kill people,
Rappers do!'

The pen is mightier than the sword - words can go much further than bullets, or the threat of bullets.


reply posted on 10-10-2008 @ 08:10 PM by tdogg1
Originally posted by Thebudweiserstuntman
reply to
post by JipStix



Gun owners kinda scare me aswell, like they need to over compensate for something, particularly the ones who cling onto the second ammendment like it was written yesterday - guns serve no purpose in a civilised society


I used to think like you--used the hate Charleston Heston and the NRA, because the media always painted gunowners and 2nd admendment enthusiasts as racist and rednecks, piling up for the great race war.

But most of those people aren't nearly concerned about any race war as they are about the government taking away their freedom to live as they chose within the law--be it seperate or whatever.

They were right to hold on to their guns all those years I was believing the propaganda against them, and they are right now.

People talk about changing the U.S. constitution.

But a sacred blue print that gives you the freedom of speech and the right to bear arms is all any people needs to stay free.

As long as governments and their agencies have guns, people should have guns--all the people.
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