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So McCain says that we shouldnt be scared of Obama as president

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posted on Oct, 12 2008 @ 01:00 PM
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posted on Oct, 12 2008 @ 01:17 PM
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Originally posted by JaxonRoberts
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That has to be the weakest arguement ever. By your claim, McCain is also a socialist. Did it ever occur to you that someone might seek the job because they actually care about the future of this nation? I think that is the case for both candidates. McCain made his statement about a possible Obama Presidency because it is true. Obama is a Constitutional Lawyer, and due to his high ranking in his class at Harvard and being the President of the Harvard Law Review, he could have chosen a high paying position at any Wall Street Law Firm. Instead he chose to serve his fellow citizens to improve this country. You are just spewing hate speak and not making any real arguement as to why he would make a bad President.


I called Obama a sociopath, not a socialist. I was making a comment regarding his mental health and personality.

Why is it that we expect the President to improve the country? Is that the President's job now. I could swear it was something else.

Anyway, all that Obama and his co-conspirators want is unfettered access to America's wealth so that they can send money to the rest of the world. He has every intent on draining this country of everything he can. Some people make the same accusation concerning Bush, but the fact is America is sitting on a massive pile of treasure and everyone who knows anything knows that. How can a person who has done nothing to improve his country in his life decide to begin at President.

What has he done in his life to suggest that improving the country is his motive for running for President? He's never helped anyone else. What on his resume suggests that he has the skill set to make improvements? He's a lawyer, what would he know about improving infrastructure or production or processing or transportation or communications. Who does he know in his circle of friends that suggests that he can have someone else do the things this country needs for it to be considered to be improved? George Soros, Obama's money man, is a hedge fund operator and well known economic parasite. He doesn't know how a free market economy works, which is evidenced by his stating repeatedly how he will set wages and other prices.

On the brighter side. If Obama does become President, overnight the Federal system will become the least important and most impotent part of government and Americans will have no other choice but to become more self reliant or use other levels of government to meet their needs. I refuse to have anything to do with him.



posted on Oct, 12 2008 @ 01:27 PM
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what's going to happen on Monday?



posted on Oct, 12 2008 @ 01:37 PM
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Originally posted by Stormdancer777
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what's going to happen on Monday?


Have you ever heard about an evil group of people bent on World Domination?

On Monday, the last member of Adam's family goes free and they will be left with nothing.

Its already Monday in the far east and in a manner similar to the destruction of global banking systems their armies and political pieces will be gradually swept away into oblivion.

Most of that response is not literal, its just a difficult topic to explain.



posted on Oct, 12 2008 @ 01:43 PM
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People in my area are having a problem with people stealing Obama signs out of their yards.

There was a news story this morning where a guy had his sign stolen three times then last night someone wrote Terrorist on his new one.

I am afraid that the "genie" McCain let out of the bottle may be of more concern than previously thought with all the public fear that was created by his and Palin's comments about him being a terrorist.



posted on Oct, 12 2008 @ 02:13 PM
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Originally posted by bruxfain
I called Obama a sociopath, not a socialist. I was making a comment regarding his mental health and personality.


Sorry, I stand corrected. Then by your arguement, McCain is a sociopath as well, because he also wants to be President.


Why is it that we expect the President to improve the country? Is that the President's job now. I could swear it was something else.


It has always been and always will be the job of the President of the United States to lead the country in the right direction, towards improvement. You seem to be alluding to the Bush Administration which has failed miserably at this task. It has lead us to the brink of economic destruction.


Anyway, all that Obama and his co-conspirators want is unfettered access to America's wealth so that they can send money to the rest of the world. He has every intent on draining this country of everything he can. Some people make the same accusation concerning Bush, but the fact is America is sitting on a massive pile of treasure and everyone who knows anything knows that. How can a person who has done nothing to improve his country in his life decide to begin at President.


First, do you have something other than hot air to back that up? And where is this "massive pile of treasure" that you allude to? Last I checked we were over $10 trillion in debt! I guess the saying that one man's trash is another man's treasure must apply here. Bush inherited a budget with a surplus, now we have the worst budget deficit ever! "How can a person who has done nothing to improve his country in his life decide to begin at President." Why don't you ask Bush. Both the current candidates have done plenty to improve this country.


What has he done in his life to suggest that improving the country is his motive for running for President? He's never helped anyone else. What on his resume suggests that he has the skill set to make improvements? He's a lawyer, what would he know about improving infrastructure or production or processing or transportation or communications. Who does he know in his circle of friends that suggests that he can have someone else do the things this country needs for it to be considered to be improved? George Soros, Obama's money man, is a hedge fund operator and well known economic parasite. He doesn't know how a free market economy works, which is evidenced by his stating repeatedly how he will set wages and other prices.


Apparently, you have not read or watched anything other than right wing propaganda on the man. The backgrounds of both candidates are varied, with strengths and weaknesses in various areas. That is why a President has a Cabinet and Advisors, so that those who do know can advise him or her on those areas.


On the brighter side. If Obama does become President, overnight the Federal system will become the least important and most impotent part of government and Americans will have no other choice but to become more self reliant or use other levels of government to meet their needs. I refuse to have anything to do with him.


Haven't been keeping up on current events, have you? I assume you mean the Federal Reserve System, and it's already there. You can thank Bush for that. I'm sure you voted for him as well, so you have yourself to blame. You're arguement reminds me of the older woman in the video; "He's... he's... he's an arab!" Try to educate yourself on both sides and then maybe you'll be able to present an educated arguement.

It saddens me that there is not one thread debating the real issues facing us, i.e. the differences in the candidate's tax policies, Iraq policies, healthcare policies, etc. etc.etc., but a ton of right wing 'fluff' threads debating trivial BS! As an Independent I can say that it speaks volumes about the once proud Republican Party of the Reagan Era! It has now dwindled down to a bunch of racist, uneducated dolts who show no desire to understand the complexities of the serious problems facing this nation.



posted on Oct, 12 2008 @ 02:30 PM
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Wow, a lot of personal attacks here
...I guess that's why the rule of conversation recommends not discussing religion or politics...

I do agree that "external sources," along with "opinions" helps moderate the conversation...



posted on Oct, 12 2008 @ 02:51 PM
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A sociopath is not merely someone who attains power. A sociopath is a person who exploits other people without regard or feeling for those people. Two important and defining characteristics of a sociopath are the inherent inability to experience empathy and guilt.

Which presidential campaign presently seeks for its own benefit to take advantage of the uniformed prejudices, hatreds, and negative tribal tendencies of some American voters?

The answer to that question will yield candidates with the potential to meet the true definition of a sociopath.



[edit on 12-10-2008 by Areal51]



posted on Oct, 12 2008 @ 02:52 PM
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You have to understand that my analysis may not make sense to you, as I walk a higher path. What I mean by that is the following:

This country, this world is at war. I don't dissect the world and view each separate piece but see things a whole. Obama is one part of a greater deception and as an Obama supporter you are also part of that deception. Perhaps an unwitting tool, but a tool nevertheless. Even though I know this about you and know that you'll never admit it, as this is your way, I don't fear you. I also encourage others not to fear you and McCain encourages his supporters not to fear you. I simply participate in these threads to let you know that I know. I know more about what is going on than you'll ever be able to acknowledge.

Of course Obama may appear to be superior to McCain and a better candidate for President. He was handpicked and trained for this very task; to campaign and win the election.

I don't see that Bush's economic policies are the cause for what happened in the financial sector or stock markets. I don't agree that the overall economy has suffered long term damage. I don't agree that America has lost in Iraq or Afghanistan; as a matter of fact this is wrong. I don't agree that it was an OPTION to fight the war because I know the TRUE nature of the enemy. I don't believe that American soldiers are killing innocent people and I know for a fact that such behavior can never be shown to have occured.

So all of Obama's and his supporters points are irrelevent to me. When he says he didn't support the war in Iraq, to me this means that he had every intention to tolerate the existence of Evil. This is acceptable to him. This is his understanding of what it means to be President of the United States.

What I believe is that the whole world is at the threshold of a major strategic victory and that Americans have nothing to be ashamed or afraid of. When the war is complete, you'll be able to go back to your normal lives. Without concern of monsters running around the countryside.

Obama's candidacy is offensive to me. There is no conflict in my mind with regards to the seriousness of what has happened in this country over the last 7 years. I believe that you however think this is some kind of joke or game to be played.

Something came to devour this nation, I suspect that Obama is in some way related to it, but it was thrown down, and you'll realize this sooner than you may want to believe.

Because you cannot possibly understand my point of view or see things with the same clarity that I see things, I really don't see any point of continuing with this thread, but its been...time consuming.



[edit on 12-10-2008 by bruxfain]



posted on Oct, 12 2008 @ 03:03 PM
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Originally posted by Areal51
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A sociopath is not merely someone who attains power. A sociopath is a person who exploits other people without regard or feeling for those people. Two important and defining characteristics of a sociopath are the inherent inability to experience empathy and guilt.

Which presidential campaign presently seeks for its own benefit to take advantage of the uniformed prejudices, hatreds, and negative tribal tendencies of some American voters?

The answer to that question will yield candidates with the potential to meet the true definition of a sociopath.
[edit on 12-10-2008 by Areal51]


Exactly. and Obama is doing just that. He's exploiting the African American experience. Using it for himself, for his own personal gain. Even though he is not at all what is meant by the phrase African American and he knows this. He uses the entire experience of black people in America and has adopted their hopes and dreams for himself. For the record, the part of Obama that is American, is European. But he uses his European roots to relate to white democrats and independents. This man is shameless and his tactics are obvious.

There should be a picture of Obama next to the word sociopath in the dictionary.

Not one Obama ancestor picked cotton in this country. He's not the descendent of the people who were freed by the Emancipation Proclamation. But because of their own hopes and dreams and self esteem they've adopted this man and allowed his falsehoods to continue.



posted on Oct, 12 2008 @ 03:09 PM
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Originally posted by bruxfain

Originally posted by Stormdancer777
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what's going to happen on Monday?


Have you ever heard about an evil group of people bent on World Domination?

On Monday, the last member of Adam's family goes free and they will be left with nothing.

Its already Monday in the far east and in a manner similar to the destruction of global banking systems their armies and political pieces will be gradually swept away into oblivion.

Most of that response is not literal, its just a difficult topic to explain.


OH that's all, cool, and i was worried.



posted on Oct, 12 2008 @ 03:11 PM
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Originally posted by bruxfain
So all of Obama's and his supporters points are irrelevent to me. When he says he didn't support the war in Iraq, to me this means that he had every intention to tolerate the existence of Evil. This is acceptable to him. This is his understanding of what it means to be President of the United States.


So the fact that the Bush Administration chose to lie to Congress in order to get authorization and funding for the Iraq war is okay with you?

The fact that Iraq was invaded under the false pretext that Iraq was in possession of WMD is okay with you?

The fact that thousands of American lives and tens of thousands of innocent Iraqi lives were lost because of the false pretext put forth by the Bush Administration is okay with you?

If there is such a thing as evil, does not any of this strike you as being a perfect fit for the definition of it?



posted on Oct, 12 2008 @ 03:22 PM
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posted on Oct, 12 2008 @ 03:34 PM
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Originally posted by bruxfain

Originally posted by Stormdancer777
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what's going to happen on Monday?


Have you ever heard about an evil group of people bent on World Domination?

On Monday, the last member of Adam's family goes free and they will be left with nothing.

Its already Monday in the far east and in a manner similar to the destruction of global banking systems their armies and political pieces will be gradually swept away into oblivion.

Most of that response is not literal, its just a difficult topic to explain.


Why don't you try and explain it. Is this some sort of Biblical Armageddon type of scenario? Do you claim to have special knowledge?

How and why?



posted on Oct, 12 2008 @ 03:36 PM
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posted on Oct, 12 2008 @ 03:38 PM
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Originally posted by Areal51
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Originally posted by bruxfain
So all of Obama's and his supporters points are irrelevent to me. When he says he didn't support the war in Iraq, to me this means that he had every intention to tolerate the existence of Evil. This is acceptable to him. This is his understanding of what it means to be President of the United States.


So the fact that the Bush Administration chose to lie to Congress in order to get authorization and funding for the Iraq war is okay with you?

The fact that Iraq was invaded under the false pretext that Iraq was in possession of WMD is okay with you?

The fact that thousands of American lives and tens of thousands of innocent Iraqi lives were lost because of the false pretext put forth by the Bush Administration is okay with you?

If there is such a thing as evil, does not any of this strike you as being a perfect fit for the definition of it?


When the war was beginning and I was less informed, I was opposed. But half way through the war I saw the truth. The real truth.

So now I count myself among those people who didn't support the war effort at first, received additional information and became a supporter of what the administration is trying to accomplish. At least what I hope that they are trying to accomplish for their own sake.

As far as Saddam's WMDs. He had them and lauched it at us. But I think most peoples understanding of what a WMD is limited. if it were not then the banks would still be in business.

So Bush didn't lie. What was found doesn't lend itself to an easy explanation. In war, people die so as far as those Iraqi's that have died I have this to say: Next time watch out who you let in your house. I sure will.



posted on Oct, 12 2008 @ 03:39 PM
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You say Obama answered all of these questions about his pastor, his ties to known terrorist, and his association with various radical muslim notables ......Yet i havent seen anyone actually post what his answers to them were? I remember his answers lol and they were vague and full of bs....but the media is so liberal they let him get away with it. He hasnt had to answer for ANYTHING because hes the leftist messiah. If it was a republican that had had all those ties and was associated with a preacher like that for 20 years calling black people the equivalent, they would have had his hide tanned and made into a chair for barrak..........by the way, quit being so sensitive about his middle name.......it IS his middle name is it not? Come on America lets quit being such big babies here IMHO.



posted on Oct, 12 2008 @ 03:47 PM
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I don't suspect anything much different than what is already happening. Governments will collapse and/or be overthrown in coups. The global financial system will continue crumbling and the stocks may continue to fall. Rebel groups and insurgents in various places will continue to be decimated and an overall winding down of hostilities will occur.

Apparently, what you see in the world is all normal occurences. The Apocalypse is already happening. What? This isn't what you expected?



posted on Oct, 12 2008 @ 04:00 PM
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expected? America should have seen this along time ago, its like watching a train coming at you from a mile away and deciding to have a pic nik on the tracks.....But i , like you feel im informed on the issues as well. To be quite honest ive been censored on here a few times in the political forum because of my less than supportive view of Obama, but then again, thats happening to us on a much larger scale isnt it........I think he should get elected, sometimes a coup is exactly whats needed.......as for me, im off to get my pitchfork and torch.




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