Everyone over 18. BUY A GUN!

I don't have guns to fight the military. I have guns so when they take over I can protect myself and family from people that would try to steal and to hunt. I plan on becoming nomadic and living in forests as long as possible. Guns are tools just as knives or sticks. I'd rather die in the streets at the hands of another armed man, than to die naked and starving in a prison. It has nothing to do with being tough and everything to do with pride and not giving up in the face of those who seek to oppress. Without a gun what do you do? Live under the rule of tyranny? Get beaten and taken to a prison camp? Become the next image on the internet resembling the holocaust? No. I'd rather die beforehand either by my own hands, or by the hands of those that will not take me alive.

O.k. I understand that those that don't think guns are going to help keep us safe are just going to roll into socialist society as if it were normal or a good thing. However, Don't think that your life is going to improve or even stay the same under such a society. I am and always have been prepared to protect this country, the constitution, and even those of you that don't think the way I do, because I am an American that believes in freedom regardless of belief!!! This is my first post on ATS so hello to all.

reply to post by ohyeahdavid

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Genius Idea.

The gun gives over confidence and the environment of fear.

The confidence you have a gun the fear they also have a gun too. The fear you need to use your gun before they overcome their fear and have the confidence to use theirs.

Killing anything with a gun is easy as the gun holder doesnt really need to kill. They can accidentally pull that trigger and the gun does what a gun does. It hates.

Point it at your kids your mom your dog yourself - as long as confidence or fear gives you the ability to - click - then your involvement in the issue is taken over by the physics and velocity of a projectile traversing feet per second towards its target.

So when those guns fail, jam or even get knocked away in whatever scenario or situation of random probability, what then?

The confidence over fear issue is suddenly open to greater factors when it has to be done manually. The physical and mental endeavours enforced upon each party to strangle, choke, stab, beat, claw, bite, suffocate, drown or even bore the other party to death.

I doubt it will happen at all. Most honest citizens get guns for protection purposes. And even in insane times, sanity still rules on individual levels.



Human behavior is still pretty much the same. The biggest difference is that then all were presumed to be armed, and thus respect and politeness ruled. Now, rudeness and disrespect flow, because few are likely to kill you for poor behavior.

I figure if we all get to the point that we presume all are armed, it will go back to something close to the Old West. At least in how we treat one another.



Not really. Though the media do love to make us believe so.



Surely this is good sense, but if your home is being broken into or you are otherwise threatened, even untrained, you can probably figure out which end to point and shoot with.

Just keep in mind to never let 'em get within 5 feet, or they can disarm you.



Um... So it's a better idea to just go placidly into the "automobile transport car" and not try to defend yourself? I don't care how much Boom Boom they have. They're not taking me without a fight.



Ahh. Ok. Well my goal is to, if not educate you, at least give you another perspective to contemplate.

I live in a country where families aren't allowed to have guns and even if we woud i don't think anyone would buy them. But somehow there's no martial law. With that in mind, I live in a country where a very large portion of America's guns are made.

Face it, if you ever tried to shoot military forces, you don't stand even a small chance. Also, they have no reason to shoot you because without people like you, they wouldn't even have guns.

If things ever got this desperate... just give Bruce Willis a call.

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I've got a small militia planned if # hits the fan. in my family, we have a combined total of 3 shotguns, and three rifles of verying power from .30-06 on down.

I've got one really good friend across the street that has 3 shotguns, two pistols, .30-06 a few .22 rifles, an AK-47, and a recently purchased AR-15.

Then there is my neighbor, and Really good friend, who has unknown amounts of wepaons, but his arsenal includes various pistols, shotguns, rifles (both semi and full auto), and bob, his .50cal rifle.

I'm going to the gun show later in the month. i've got an AK in mind.

DO NOT BUY A GUN,do not panic,do not freak out.

for that is what they(the machines) want us to do,they want us all to be paranoid and confused armed to the teeth so that when they start the pandemonium we all start shooting each other.

fight with knowledge,the knowledge that we are being depopulated by our own future in a manner which conforms to cosmic law,that is they(the future) cant kill us directly thus they must get us to kill each other or ourselves.

that is the great truth,our own future is killing us off.

Noooo.... The gun gives some degree of confidence, but most gun owners hope they never have to find out how good they are with a gun. "Over confidence" is what a bully feels when he thinks no one else is armed.

And actually, fear is reduced, with people feeling somewhat safer knowing that at least they have a fighting shot (pun intentional) at protecting themselves from a rogue government.



The concern that others are armed actually enhances people's behavior toward one another. Except when an armed military goon is coming to drag you off to a FEMA camp, you are likely to try civility first. And in the case of a goon, you're justified in pulling the trigger.



Ok. This had me laughing. The gun "HATES!?!" Ah, c'mon now, dude. How many inanimate objects are you aware of that have emotions? Do rocks have crushes? Do cars experience ennui? Fence posts get butterflies in their...er...hmmmm.

IF - that's IF - a gun is accidentally fired, it does what it does. It fires. No emotion involved. And yes, sometimes that can happen, but sometimes cars can hate - er... malperform because they slip on unseen ice, slide to the edge of the road and cause death. Shall we throw the babies out with the bathwater? Get rid of any tool that MIGHT cause death? Gimme a break.



WHAT!?! Oh, now this is just foolishness. Unless any of the above were attacking me with intent to kill me (as if!), I would NEVER point a gun at any of them - or anybody else who is not threatening me.



I'm beginning to think that maybe you're one sick puppy. Do you envision yourself doing this stuff??? Man, if so, you need help. Seriously.



Then you work with what you have left. What about it? Are you saying you are WORSE off having had the gun and it failing, or for whatever reason cannot be used, than never having it the first place? This is prime lack of logic.



Frankly, I have no clue what this above is trying to say but that it adds reinforcement to the concept that you harbor some rather twisted thoughts by virtue of the string of ugly verbs...

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I doubt I will be randomly shooting. Maybe you have that issue...? I'll be aiming only at the ones who are coming to lock me up (or kill me) in FEMA camps. I will not go THERE without a fight.



Um... Ok... And you get this rather confusing information from...where? Have you considered that maybe They are manipulating you into THINKING that is what is going on so as to have the fewest armed when they haul us off to FEMA camps...



So you say, but either you are a disinfo agent, are deranged, or you can point to evidence. If the latter, please feel free to do so. Otherwise, I will conclude it is one of the former.

Not everyone should go out and buy a gun. But everyone should know how to fire one. I like to tell people.." i'd rather have a gun and not need it, than to need a gun and not have it"
Im sure many gun owners hate the fact that someday we may have to defend ourselves against another human. This does not settle well with me, but I have faith that god will protect me, my family , and our country. With or without guns.
Our second amendment right is just that, a right. And I will be damned if our government takes my rights away. We cannot keep these rights as one, but as many. In the amendment is states " A well regulated Militia, being necessary to the security of a free State, the right of the people to keep and bear Arms, shall not be infringed." We need to remind our fellow Americans of this.

reply to post by psychedeliack

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A gun can't stop a smart martial artist? What about a man with a gun who is just as smart?

firstly consider these facts.....

there is a cover up going on pertaining to the field of aliens and ufos's,so many people have been killed to cover the subject of ufos up,you know all those whistleblowers suddenly dying in strange circumstances.
the cover up seems to span the globe,you often hear of "classified" ufo reports being declassified in countires round the the world...

.....thus ufos and aliens are classified across the globe....now ask yourself...why would humans cover up the existence of any aliens?,why would they kill thier own citizens to cover up aliens?.....why?,it doesnt make any sense....instead what makes sense is the aliens are covering up thier own existence,classifying it across the globe and killing anyone who attempts to speak to the truth.

secondly.you ever seen those shiny lights in the sky?,all these countless ufo reports,some like the ones above the whitehouse in the 1960's were obviously ment to be seen,its like all them ufos are saying "look at us were real".....all these stories about aliens everywhere,from zeta riticulae.,the galactic federation of light.....its almost as if someone is TRYING TO MAKE US BELIEVE IN ALIENS,
.....a campaign to make the public believe in aliens...following me?

now this is the crucial bit.....why would aliens classify and cover up thier own existence to the death across the globe while at the same time letting people know there real with a mass campaign of "were real"?...they wouldnt,instead it appears as if something is pretending to be aliens,using aliens as a disguise,purposly letting people believe in aliens to cover up the fact thier not.

if you were an alien of an advanced nature,you wouldnt pretend to be in alien if you were covering up ytour own existence would you?,what makes more sense is if your not an alien,pretending to be an alien is the perfect disguise isnt it?.

now depopulation......just look at the attrocites of un peacekeepers..


truthhugger.com...


www.worldnetdaily.com...

and so many more cases,countless cases and there all about killing people,and not once has it been investigated or spread through the mass media,its all hushed up and the general tone of the attrocities is......people being killed for no apparent reason.

look at the purposeful spreading of aids by medical health folks,


en.wikipedia.org...

huh?,well thats not the only case,there are countless examples of people being deiliberatly harmed by the medical health service,im speaking to several people now who were all subjected to medical experiments,i have seen the proof of an IMPLANT connected the occular nerve,i will post the pics and such in another thread i will write on the subject of OUR FUTURE DEPOPULATING US.

Military would never turncoat on it's citizens. That would be a big mistake! You would see militia multiplying so fast it would make your head spin. Expecting military to shoot their own brothers and sisters is ludicrous. You would see many turn in a heartbeat, all ready to slaughter anyone resembling a soldier. Local armory being stormed.

reply to post by welivefortheson

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You managed to give me a lot of information (that I already was well aware of) but never addressed this:



At least, I could not discern a connection.

And since you are using this statement to justify not arming oneself for protection (all the arming you brought up was not self-protection arms, but war arms), I want proof of this.

So I want you to show me how it is "the future" that wants us to kill ourselves, and how that relates to personal protection against the NWO goons coming to try and fill FEMA camps with our live (or dead) bodies.

This is likely true of most. But there are Chinese and other nationalities sitting on the Mexican side of the border, plus Blackwater, plus other things we may not even know about.

And, if it is made to appear that the action (whatever the order might be) is "the only solution" to some problem, many troops will go along, however they might wish another solution would crop up.

What an ignorant comment. Some of us have severe mental illness. You want me, ME? to own a gun. Are you also insane? I've been institutionalized twice. Although I've never had any violent tendencies against anyone but myself there is NO way to be sure that that trend will continue for the rest of my life.

Or maybe you don't think mentally ill people should have the same rights as the sane?

Vas