The American way of life is dead… , page 11

reply to post by dbates

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Thanks, I will sent a complaint. MM told me to get of fte thread, and wrote three posts in a row attacking me personally. I feel I have more than enough reason to protest an edit of one of my posts.

reply to post by Justice11

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Thats the full thrust of your argument is it? Its a Russian site so therefore everything they say is BS?

Guess this debate must be over then.....oh,wait,here's a similar article from an English news site.

'Dead zone' threat to US suburban dream.

Petrol price rises may cause the housing bubble to burst, triggering global recession and the fall of America's Eden.

Now there are fears it is coming to an end. For the past five years America has been gripped by a housing price bubble. It has funded a huge expansion of suburbia as Americans poured their wealth into their homes. Yet many think that bubble may be about to burst. That would send shock waves through the US economy and into the rest of the world. Nor is that the only threat. The rising price of oil is squeezing suburbanites. It threatens a way of life where pavements are rare and everyone moves by car.

www.guardian.co.uk...

reply to post by magicmushroom

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Im not really sure what to think, I mean I have some ideas churning away in my brain so I will throw caution to the wind and provide some of my thoughts with my ATS community.

IMOO, I think there is always a new president stepping into his predecessors mess but this time its a big mess for Pres Elect Obama, Im a very hard core republican or I thought I was because I was so inundated with being a soldier and being overseas so much I just thought it was right to believe in your CINC and what the republicans are doing for the country but now that I am now just a tax paying law abiding citizen I see alot of changes and yes they are not good. My political view has shifted so drastically that I almost despise what GWB and his fellow flithy rich have done to us, The billions of dollars that they have bilked out of the country and that piece of crap outfit Halliburton makes me ill as do many of the wealthy because they dont care about the lower and middle class at all. Im so tired of those bufoons sitting in their ivory towers while we struggle, Its the lower and middle class who are fighting the wars and its us the lower and middle class who are the backbone of this country, They can only hide behind there money for so long.

Iam a white middle class american, I love this country and proudly served in the military and although I am a bit cynical about president elect Obama and I dont see him as black or white or any color I see him as a fixture that will hopefully fix our country. I think that maybe this is the one to fix whats broken, He is a humble man, He loves baseball and wants to get our people out of Iraq and comes from humble beginnings and maybe thats what we need here, So far he seems honest and he has much work to do, I just feel for the GM autoworkers that could lose their jobs, I mean the Chevy dealership by my home is filled with new cars but no customers and I feel for the people who may lose thier 401k's and the folks who are losing their homes. I dont think we will ever become a third world nation but if something or someone doesnt do anything maybe we will finally see whats its like to depend on other nations like some depend on us..I am no longer a republican nor am I democrat, I am an american who would like to see change and in a positive way and if this nation should ever crumble, I am ready to protect my loved ones and whats mine, Ive been fortunate enough to receieve some very good training during my time served in the army and I will use that training to defend whats mine.....

reply to post by magicmushroom

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I think some Americans don't understand the simple concept of 'what goes up must come down.' To them America will be a super power forever,and that just ain't gonna happen.No empire of any kind has existed forever.


And,totally off topic....

Hi dad look at my score!

reply to post by jakyll

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Most Americans have no desire for the U.S. to become an empire. While some elites at the top have such wet dreams, they are a tiny percent of the population. Most Americans would like to see all the nations of the world develop into first world nations, and then we would all be better off.

Most Americans would like to reduce the world influence that our corporations enjoy with our giant military. Reducing the power of the elites isn't killing the American way of life, it is bring America back to life.

reply to post by poet1b

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The problem with that is that most, if not all, western powers had to pretty much hold down and rape those 3rd world countries to get the standard of living they have today, and my own country was one of the worst.

The standard of living throughout the world can never be equal, because some countries practise conspicuous consumption, and that is only ever achieved at the expense of others.

In order to realise this dream that you say most americans want (which I highly doubt) the standard of living would have to decline quite sharply in western nations.

Most people I know ain't gonna give up their 52" flatscreen TV, fittedkitchen with all the mod cons, bi-yearly holidays abroad and their 1 or 2 cars so that a kid in africa or wherever can have a better standard of living.

Personally, my possessions are pretty limited in comparison to most - which is a lifestyle choice I made.
Until everyone is prepared to do the same, this utopia you seem to think people in the US want is NOT gonna happen.

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