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posted on Oct, 10 2008 @ 10:28 AM
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To the other McCain supporters - are we ready to concede yet? Gallup has Obama at 52% to McCain's 41% (www.gallup.com...) and they also projected him as the winner of the second debate.

As much as I distrust Obama and I KNOW he's defrauded the public with regard to his past and his questionable affiliations, the American public has spoken loud and clear that they don't care about those issues. They don't care that Obama stands for socialism and removal of Constitutional rights. Obama supporters are like these investors - they want instant gratification. I really believe Obama supporters believe that as soon as he takes office that things will just magically get better. We know better. We know they are in for a rude awakening.

Time to concede defeat, is what I'm thinking. Let's just admit that (unless there's a late breaking scandal) Obama has this race wrapped up, brace ourselves for four years of horrible times and pray to God that in 2012 the Republican people are smart enough to nominate someone that's actually interesting in change for the better.




posted on Oct, 10 2008 @ 10:30 AM
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I congratulate you on your exercise of common sense.

McCain with his anti-middle class projects will not be able to hurt us, thank God.



posted on Oct, 10 2008 @ 10:37 AM
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Not saying it wouldn't happen with Mccain or his successors(eventually), but, is this what we're going to see?
Because I won't sing the praises with everyone else.


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posted on Oct, 10 2008 @ 10:37 AM
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Originally posted by sos37
To the other McCain supporters - are we ready to concede yet? Gallup has Obama at 52% to McCain's 41% (www.gallup.com...) and they also projected him as the winner of the second debate.

As much as I distrust Obama and I KNOW he's defrauded the public with regard to his past and his questionable affiliations, the American public has spoken loud and clear that they don't care about those issues. They don't care that Obama stands for socialism and removal of Constitutional rights. Obama supporters are like these investors - they want instant gratification. I really believe Obama supporters believe that as soon as he takes office that things will just magically get better. We know better. We know they are in for a rude awakening.

Time to concede defeat, is what I'm thinking. Let's just admit that (unless there's a late breaking scandal) Obama has this race wrapped up, brace ourselves for four years of horrible times and pray to God that in 2012 the Republican people are smart enough to nominate someone that's actually interesting in change for the better.


Wow you have just lived through the greatest destruction of the constitution and civil liberties EVER - in the history of the United States - crimes against the freedoms of Americans perpetrated by Republicans and you try and pin the removal of constitutional rights on Obama ?

Wow - now I have read it all man...that is some whacky stuff right there.



posted on Oct, 10 2008 @ 10:57 AM
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Obama has this race wrapped up, brace ourselves for four years of horrible times and pray to God that in 2012 the Republican people are smart enough to nominate someone that's actually interesting in change for the better.

We took our lumps for the last 8 years, and we are ready to dish a few out.

I laughed so loud when I read the OP that everyone in the office here is looking at me!! NOW OBAMA WANTS TO REMOVE OUR CONSTITUTIONAL RIGHTS?!?!?! Where in the Karl Rove did you come up with that one????

Have we all somehow been removed to Seinfeld's bizarro world???



posted on Oct, 10 2008 @ 11:09 AM
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I have said it before and I will say it again:

The Democrats and the Republicans are the two sides of a double-headed counterfeit coin, thrust into our collective palm by a puppet media, the only purchase of which is NWO.

It really does not matter which of these puppets wins. Doesn't matter one whit.

But I did laugh at the "Obama stands for ... [the] removal of Constitutional rights" bit. As was said above, this administration has stripped us of more of our rights - on the order of tenfold - than we lost in all our history preceding this administration. So I wryly chucked at THAT bit of propagandist spew.



posted on Oct, 10 2008 @ 11:31 AM
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I take it offensively that you say Obama has fooled myself and others. I think not sir, I have researched every allegation against him. I know the truth behind his tax plans and health care plans. Socialism is just a word thrown by the heads of the right wing to scare the public.



posted on Oct, 10 2008 @ 11:36 AM
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So now....is Obama a communist???
And here I was this whole time scared of SOCIALISM!



posted on Oct, 10 2008 @ 12:32 PM
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Originally posted by audas

Originally posted by sos37
To the other McCain supporters - are we ready to concede yet? Gallup has Obama at 52% to McCain's 41% (www.gallup.com...) and they also projected him as the winner of the second debate.

As much as I distrust Obama and I KNOW he's defrauded the public with regard to his past and his questionable affiliations, the American public has spoken loud and clear that they don't care about those issues. They don't care that Obama stands for socialism and removal of Constitutional rights. Obama supporters are like these investors - they want instant gratification. I really believe Obama supporters believe that as soon as he takes office that things will just magically get better. We know better. We know they are in for a rude awakening.

Time to concede defeat, is what I'm thinking. Let's just admit that (unless there's a late breaking scandal) Obama has this race wrapped up, brace ourselves for four years of horrible times and pray to God that in 2012 the Republican people are smart enough to nominate someone that's actually interesting in change for the better.


Wow you have just lived through the greatest destruction of the constitution and civil liberties EVER - in the history of the United States - crimes against the freedoms of Americans perpetrated by Republicans and you try and pin the removal of constitutional rights on Obama ?

Wow - now I have read it all man...that is some whacky stuff right there.


Actually Obama is about ALL removing constitutional rights - and what's more, I can prove it.

* Stanley Kurtz, researching Obama's ties to William Ayers was speaking on the Milt Rosenberg radio talk show about his findings. Obama's campaign instructed it's followers to flood the station with calls demanding that Kurtz be silenced and the station manager not ever allow this to happen again.

Constitutional rights violated: Freedom of speech, freedom of press

Sources: www.associatedcontent.com...
michellemalkin.com...
www.freerepublic.com...
www.swamppolitics.com...

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* Obama wants to ban assault weapons

Constitutional rights violated: right to bear arms

Sources:
www.abovetopsecret.com...

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And this is BEFORE the election has even happened. Imagine what's to transpire in the next 4 years. You people seriously thought these past 8 years were bad - why? Because you had to pay $4 at the pump? That wasn't even Bush's fault.

The next four years will bring on the worst recession this country has ever seen because Obama wants to tax the middle class indirectly (he raises taxes on the job-creating class which passes down the tax burden to the middle class). That's all we need during these tough times.

I'll be here in four years, loudly yelling "I told you so!" when all of you are cursing Obama for having deceived you so badly.



posted on Oct, 10 2008 @ 12:43 PM
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You know who these people are???



posted on Oct, 10 2008 @ 12:54 PM
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Those are the Annenbergs. They are the ones who funded the EDUCATIONAL board that was partially comprised of Obama and Ayres. Did you know that Mr. Annenberg was a conservative diplomat ? Guess who appointed Mr. Annenberg to a diplomatic position?????

That's right RONALD REAGAN.

So, do you mean to say that Ronald Reagan supports terrorist sympathizers???? BECAUSE.......

I take offense to that

. He was a great man and I will not stand here and let you say that possibly the greatest man ever to walk this Earth was a terrorist sympathizer.

(see.....I can do it too)



posted on Oct, 10 2008 @ 12:54 PM
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Common SO! You are starting to remind me of Joe Scarborough! Why would you want to depress your fellow Republican voters?

Let me tell you something. In 2004 I was the only one in my large group of liberal friends who was voting Bush. We would all go out on the weekends and I would be there defending Bush against my liberal friend's onslaught from all sides. They were confident they had the election and would rub it in the closer we got to November.

The day after the election, I called all of them to gloat and found out that I was the only one who actually voted. Not a single one of them felt they actually needed to vote.


So lift that chin up, get the jelly out of your spine and get voting booth on the big day! McCain is still in this game.



posted on Oct, 10 2008 @ 12:57 PM
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the "right to bear arm's" is not the right to bear any weapon you wish, by that logic people should be free to have a nuke in the back yard and a chemical weapons lab in their basement. saying that you cannot own a weapon that is designed solely for the purpose of killing other people, just because you want one, is not an infringement of your rights.

calling, or even spaming, a radio show is not a restriction of rights either, how is it?

it looks to me like your understanding of the constitution is gleamed from the same place bush got his.



posted on Oct, 10 2008 @ 01:04 PM
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Originally posted by bknapple32
I take it offensively that you say Obama has fooled myself and others. I think not sir, I have researched every allegation against him. I know the truth behind his tax plans and health care plans. Socialism is just a word thrown by the heads of the right wing to scare the public.


Then I think you've not researched jack, sir. Otherwise you would have serious doubt about this man.

* How can you deny that his tax plan won't cause more harm? Doesn't it make sense that when you tax the job creating class, the added burden gets passed down the line to the middle and blue collar classes?

* Nationalizing health care is going to seriously degrade the quality of the health care system as individual doctors will pull out of the national offerings and go private-only since the government now negotiates their fee down to a third or less of what they're used to getting paid. What you're left with is a series of mediocre health care professionals who only care about getting patients in and out on an assembly line.

* Questionable relations with the following people:

William Ayers - Former member of Weather Underground who held a fundraiser for Obama at Ayers' house in 1995

Tony Rezko - Slum lord.

First Obama said that his association with Antoin "Tony" Rezko, who is currently facing federal charges of attempted extortion, money laundering, and fraud, wasn't a close association, which news reports later showed wasn't exactly the truth. Then further digging showed there was also more money that exchanged hands than previously admitted.

www.abcnews.go.com...
www.nytimes.com...

James Meeks - another Obama spiritual advisor making the same hate speeches as Jeremiah Wright as seen in this video: wwwwakeupamericans-spree.blogspot.com...

Sam Graham-Felson -


Sam Graham-Felsen, a journalist-on-leave from The Nation, joined Obama for America in March 2007 where he works for the New Media department as the official blogger, daily presenting the campaign's public face. Now he's under fire for his reputed Marxist sympathies from bloggers at Common Ills on the left and Little Green Footballs on the right. Graham-Felsen, according to a 2003 article in the Harvard Crimson, adorned one corner of his shared student apartment with "a Communist Party flag ... bought on their trip to Russia the summer after sophomore year."


wwwwakeupamericans-spree.blogspot.com...


According to Huffington Post, who listed information about paid staffers on the Obama payroll, from America campaign 2007 second quarter report, Graham-Felsen is a paid staffer for Barack Obama.

The WND article goes on to say that Graham-Felsen used to have a Communist Party flag in his Harvard campus apartment and published in a self-professed 'revolutionary Marxist' journal.


otb.huffingtonpost.com...

Rashid Khalidi - a former member of the Palestinian Libertarian Organization. Obama was on the board of the Woods Fund(the same board he was with Ayers on for 3 years), and gave $70,000 to the Arab American Action Network, co-founded by Khalidi. In return, Khalidi held a fundraiser for Obama in 2000. Obama also had a farewell dinner for Khalidi as he left for Columbia. The NY Times said Obama was a frequent dinner guest. As head of the Middle Eastern program at Columbia, Khalidi is who got Ahmedinejad set up to speak at Columbia, who called the Israeli state a "catastrophe".

Source: www.reddit.com...

Robert Malley - a principal foreign policy advisor for Obama, has written numerous anti-Isreal blogs and opinions.


JERUSALEM – While officials here largely maintain a policy against interfering in U.S. election politics, some Israeli security officials quietly expressed "concern" about an adviser to Sen. Barack Obama who has advocated negotiations with Hamas and providing international assistance to the terrorist group.

The officials noted Robert Malley, a principal Obama foreign policy adviser, has penned numerous opinion articles, many of them co-written with a former adviser to the late Palestinian Authority President Yasser Arafat, petitioning for dialogue with Hamas and blasting Israel for numerous policies he says harm the Palestinian cause.


Source: www.worldnetdaily.com...

And this isn'e even all of them.

So I ask you again, sir, have you REALLY done all of the research, and if so, how can you NOT have lingering doubts about this man unless you choose to turn a blind eye to what's right in front of you?



posted on Oct, 10 2008 @ 01:07 PM
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Originally posted by pieman
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the "right to bear arm's" is not the right to bear any weapon you wish, by that logic people should be free to have a nuke in the back yard and a chemical weapons lab in their basement. saying that you cannot own a weapon that is designed solely for the purpose of killing other people, just because you want one, is not an infringement of your rights.

calling, or even spaming, a radio show is not a restriction of rights either, how is it?

it looks to me like your understanding of the constitution is gleamed from the same place bush got his.


Demanding that the speaker shut up and the station manager never allow him on again. How is that not a restriction of rights? How is that not the same as asking someone to take a book off the shelf to make it unavailable? It's the same as censorship!

And you call MY understanding into question? Now I'm beginning to understand why you guys support Obama - some of you aren't smart enough to support a real candidate.



posted on Oct, 10 2008 @ 01:11 PM
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Originally posted by Marcus Calpurnius
Common SO! You are starting to remind me of Joe Scarborough! Why would you want to depress your fellow Republican voters?

Let me tell you something. In 2004 I was the only one in my large group of liberal friends who was voting Bush. We would all go out on the weekends and I would be there defending Bush against my liberal friend's onslaught from all sides. They were confident they had the election and would rub it in the closer we got to November.

The day after the election, I called all of them to gloat and found out that I was the only one who actually voted. Not a single one of them felt they actually needed to vote.


So lift that chin up, get the jelly out of your spine and get voting booth on the big day! McCain is still in this game.


Oh I'll still be out there casting my vote for McCain/Palin. All the media drawl about how 'Obama the savior of mankind has descended and nothing can stop him from taking his rightful place as president' has just utterly depressed me to no end. The man is as twisted and evil as they come and he's got most of this gullible nation completely fooled.



posted on Oct, 10 2008 @ 01:15 PM
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Originally posted by Grafilthy
Those are the Annenbergs. They are the ones who funded the EDUCATIONAL board that was partially comprised of Obama and Ayres. Did you know that Mr. Annenberg was a conservative diplomat ? Guess who appointed Mr. Annenberg to a diplomatic position?????

That's right RONALD REAGAN.

So, do you mean to say that Ronald Reagan supports terrorist sympathizers???? BECAUSE.......

I take offense to that

. He was a great man and I will not stand here and let you say that possibly the greatest man ever to walk this Earth was a terrorist sympathizer.

(see.....I can do it too)


Okay, you're a really exciteable person. And you're putting words into my mouth. The CAC, Chicago Annenberg Challenge, was just a venue that fostered the Ayers-Obama relationship. It had nothing to do with the Annenbergs themselves or their politics.

The Ayers-Obama connection goes beyond the CAC, which is what I and many other conservatives have been trying to tell you.

I also agree that Reagan was one of the greatest presidents in modern history. I wish he were here to fix this economic mess. But he isn't.



posted on Oct, 10 2008 @ 01:32 PM
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Originally posted by sos37
I also agree that Reagan was one of the greatest presidents in modern history. I wish he were here to fix this economic mess. But he isn't.


I am sure the terrorists and contras his administration helped love him too.



posted on Oct, 10 2008 @ 02:06 PM
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Originally posted by sos37
Demanding that the speaker shut up and the station manager never allow him on again. How is that not a restriction of rights? How is that not the same as asking someone to take a book off the shelf to make it unavailable? It's the same as censorship!


it's not the same thing because they don't have the power to enforce it. if they instructed the police to go down to the station and lock up the station manager for treason based on the stations political stance, then that would be worrying.

but the thing is, they didn't do that.

and by the way, i said you were wrong, i didn't say i supported obama.



posted on Oct, 10 2008 @ 02:16 PM
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The CAC, Chicago Annenberg Challenge, was just a venue that fostered the Ayers-Obama relationship.

You never refuted the FACT that Reagan supported Annenberg.....and in turn Annenberg placed one William Ayres on said committee. Therefore Ronald Reagan supported domestic terrorism. Also....

Why would a conservative like Mr. Annenberg KNOWINGLY GIVE A $49.2 MILLION DOLLAR GRANT TO COMMITTEE THAT INCLUDES A KNOWN DOMESTIC TERRORIST??? I am outraged!

I agree.....we should look into this more!





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