Are we ready to concede yet?, page 1

To the other McCain supporters - are we ready to concede yet? Gallup has Obama at 52% to McCain's 41% (www.gallup.com...) and they also projected him as the winner of the second debate.

As much as I distrust Obama and I KNOW he's defrauded the public with regard to his past and his questionable affiliations, the American public has spoken loud and clear that they don't care about those issues. They don't care that Obama stands for socialism and removal of Constitutional rights. Obama supporters are like these investors - they want instant gratification. I really believe Obama supporters believe that as soon as he takes office that things will just magically get better. We know better. We know they are in for a rude awakening.

Time to concede defeat, is what I'm thinking. Let's just admit that (unless there's a late breaking scandal) Obama has this race wrapped up, brace ourselves for four years of horrible times and pray to God that in 2012 the Republican people are smart enough to nominate someone that's actually interesting in change for the better.

Not saying it wouldn't happen with Mccain or his successors(eventually), but, is this what we're going to see?
Because I won't sing the praises with everyone else.

Originally posted by sos37
To the other McCain supporters - are we ready to concede yet? Gallup has Obama at 52% to McCain's 41% (www.gallup.com...) and they also projected him as the winner of the second debate.

As much as I distrust Obama and I KNOW he's defrauded the public with regard to his past and his questionable affiliations, the American public has spoken loud and clear that they don't care about those issues. They don't care that Obama stands for socialism and removal of Constitutional rights. Obama supporters are like these investors - they want instant gratification. I really believe Obama supporters believe that as soon as he takes office that things will just magically get better. We know better. We know they are in for a rude awakening.

Time to concede defeat, is what I'm thinking. Let's just admit that (unless there's a late breaking scandal) Obama has this race wrapped up, brace ourselves for four years of horrible times and pray to God that in 2012 the Republican people are smart enough to nominate someone that's actually interesting in change for the better.

Wow you have just lived through the greatest destruction of the constitution and civil liberties EVER - in the history of the United States - crimes against the freedoms of Americans perpetrated by Republicans and you try and pin the removal of constitutional rights on Obama ?

Wow - now I have read it all man...that is some whacky stuff right there.

reply to post by Clearskies

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So now....is Obama a communist???
And here I was this whole time scared of SOCIALISM!

Originally posted by audas

Originally posted by sos37
To the other McCain supporters - are we ready to concede yet? Gallup has Obama at 52% to McCain's 41% (www.gallup.com...) and they also projected him as the winner of the second debate.

As much as I distrust Obama and I KNOW he's defrauded the public with regard to his past and his questionable affiliations, the American public has spoken loud and clear that they don't care about those issues. They don't care that Obama stands for socialism and removal of Constitutional rights. Obama supporters are like these investors - they want instant gratification. I really believe Obama supporters believe that as soon as he takes office that things will just magically get better. We know better. We know they are in for a rude awakening.

Time to concede defeat, is what I'm thinking. Let's just admit that (unless there's a late breaking scandal) Obama has this race wrapped up, brace ourselves for four years of horrible times and pray to God that in 2012 the Republican people are smart enough to nominate someone that's actually interesting in change for the better.

Wow you have just lived through the greatest destruction of the constitution and civil liberties EVER - in the history of the United States - crimes against the freedoms of Americans perpetrated by Republicans and you try and pin the removal of constitutional rights on Obama ?

Wow - now I have read it all man...that is some whacky stuff right there.

Actually Obama is about ALL removing constitutional rights - and what's more, I can prove it.

* Stanley Kurtz, researching Obama's ties to William Ayers was speaking on the Milt Rosenberg radio talk show about his findings. Obama's campaign instructed it's followers to flood the station with calls demanding that Kurtz be silenced and the station manager not ever allow this to happen again.

Constitutional rights violated: Freedom of speech, freedom of press

Sources: www.associatedcontent.com...
michellemalkin.com...
www.freerepublic.com...
www.swamppolitics.com...

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* Obama wants to ban assault weapons

Constitutional rights violated: right to bear arms

Sources:
www.abovetopsecret.com...

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And this is BEFORE the election has even happened. Imagine what's to transpire in the next 4 years. You people seriously thought these past 8 years were bad - why? Because you had to pay $4 at the pump? That wasn't even Bush's fault.

The next four years will bring on the worst recession this country has ever seen because Obama wants to tax the middle class indirectly (he raises taxes on the job-creating class which passes down the tax burden to the middle class). That's all we need during these tough times.

I'll be here in four years, loudly yelling "I told you so!" when all of you are cursing Obama for having deceived you so badly.

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You know who these people are???

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the "right to bear arm's" is not the right to bear any weapon you wish, by that logic people should be free to have a nuke in the back yard and a chemical weapons lab in their basement. saying that you cannot own a weapon that is designed solely for the purpose of killing other people, just because you want one, is not an infringement of your rights.

calling, or even spaming, a radio show is not a restriction of rights either, how is it?

it looks to me like your understanding of the constitution is gleamed from the same place bush got his.

Originally posted by bknapple32
I take it offensively that you say Obama has fooled myself and others. I think not sir, I have researched every allegation against him. I know the truth behind his tax plans and health care plans. Socialism is just a word thrown by the heads of the right wing to scare the public.

Then I think you've not researched jack, sir. Otherwise you would have serious doubt about this man.

* How can you deny that his tax plan won't cause more harm? Doesn't it make sense that when you tax the job creating class, the added burden gets passed down the line to the middle and blue collar classes?

* Nationalizing health care is going to seriously degrade the quality of the health care system as individual doctors will pull out of the national offerings and go private-only since the government now negotiates their fee down to a third or less of what they're used to getting paid. What you're left with is a series of mediocre health care professionals who only care about getting patients in and out on an assembly line.

* Questionable relations with the following people:

William Ayers - Former member of Weather Underground who held a fundraiser for Obama at Ayers' house in 1995

Tony Rezko - Slum lord.

First Obama said that his association with Antoin "Tony" Rezko, who is currently facing federal charges of attempted extortion, money laundering, and fraud, wasn't a close association, which news reports later showed wasn't exactly the truth. Then further digging showed there was also more money that exchanged hands than previously admitted.

www.abcnews.go.com...
www.nytimes.com...

James Meeks - another Obama spiritual advisor making the same hate speeches as Jeremiah Wright as seen in this video: wwwwakeupamericans-spree.blogspot.com...

Sam Graham-Felson -

Sam Graham-Felsen, a journalist-on-leave from The Nation, joined Obama for America in March 2007 where he works for the New Media department as the official blogger, daily presenting the campaign's public face. Now he's under fire for his reputed Marxist sympathies from bloggers at Common Ills on the left and Little Green Footballs on the right. Graham-Felsen, according to a 2003 article in the Harvard Crimson, adorned one corner of his shared student apartment with "a Communist Party flag ... bought on their trip to Russia the summer after sophomore year."

wwwwakeupamericans-spree.blogspot.com...

According to Huffington Post, who listed information about paid staffers on the Obama payroll, from America campaign 2007 second quarter report, Graham-Felsen is a paid staffer for Barack Obama.

The WND article goes on to say that Graham-Felsen used to have a Communist Party flag in his Harvard campus apartment and published in a self-professed 'revolutionary Marxist' journal.

otb.huffingtonpost.com...

Rashid Khalidi - a former member of the Palestinian Libertarian Organization. Obama was on the board of the Woods Fund(the same board he was with Ayers on for 3 years), and gave $70,000 to the Arab American Action Network, co-founded by Khalidi. In return, Khalidi held a fundraiser for Obama in 2000. Obama also had a farewell dinner for Khalidi as he left for Columbia. The NY Times said Obama was a frequent dinner guest. As head of the Middle Eastern program at Columbia, Khalidi is who got Ahmedinejad set up to speak at Columbia, who called the Israeli state a "catastrophe".

Source: www.reddit.com...

Robert Malley - a principal foreign policy advisor for Obama, has written numerous anti-Isreal blogs and opinions.

JERUSALEM – While officials here largely maintain a policy against interfering in U.S. election politics, some Israeli security officials quietly expressed "concern" about an adviser to Sen. Barack Obama who has advocated negotiations with Hamas and providing international assistance to the terrorist group.

The officials noted Robert Malley, a principal Obama foreign policy adviser, has penned numerous opinion articles, many of them co-written with a former adviser to the late Palestinian Authority President Yasser Arafat, petitioning for dialogue with Hamas and blasting Israel for numerous policies he says harm the Palestinian cause.

Source: www.worldnetdaily.com...

And this isn'e even all of them.

So I ask you again, sir, have you REALLY done all of the research, and if so, how can you NOT have lingering doubts about this man unless you choose to turn a blind eye to what's right in front of you?

Originally posted by pieman
reply to post by sos37

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the "right to bear arm's" is not the right to bear any weapon you wish, by that logic people should be free to have a nuke in the back yard and a chemical weapons lab in their basement. saying that you cannot own a weapon that is designed solely for the purpose of killing other people, just because you want one, is not an infringement of your rights.

calling, or even spaming, a radio show is not a restriction of rights either, how is it?

it looks to me like your understanding of the constitution is gleamed from the same place bush got his.

Demanding that the speaker shut up and the station manager never allow him on again. How is that not a restriction of rights? How is that not the same as asking someone to take a book off the shelf to make it unavailable? It's the same as censorship!

And you call MY understanding into question? Now I'm beginning to understand why you guys support Obama - some of you aren't smart enough to support a real candidate.

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The CAC, Chicago Annenberg Challenge, was just a venue that fostered the Ayers-Obama relationship.

You never refuted the FACT that Reagan supported Annenberg.....and in turn Annenberg placed one William Ayres on said committee. Therefore Ronald Reagan supported domestic terrorism. Also....

Why would a conservative like Mr. Annenberg KNOWINGLY GIVE A $49.2 MILLION DOLLAR GRANT TO COMMITTEE THAT INCLUDES A KNOWN DOMESTIC TERRORIST??? I am outraged!

I agree.....we should look into this more!

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