Yesterday in Chat we had an awesome discussion on this thread, right Heike?
I want to clarify, that I am not of the opinion that Revenge SHOULD be
carried out by the Parent; but I don't know that I could personally exercise self restraint.
Originally posted by Sanctum1972
You're very clever. Are you trying to side with BlueOrder or impress him with your intellectual trap on me with a moral Catch-22?
I'm not trying to be clever. I'm not trying to lure you into an intellectual trap. I'm not trying to side with/impress BlueOrder. Your assumptions,
and throwing accusations in my direction is a feeble attempt at making me look like jerk for asking you those questions. I assure you, I'm not a
jerk, and you and I probably have more in common that either of us think when it comes to this topic.
I asked you those questions becuase I believe you should consider the possible feelings that the parents are feeling. The feelings that MIGHT push
someone into murdering their childs abuser. I asked you to see the issue in a different light, from a different perspective. I asked you to turn on
another light in this room, who knows, in the corner there might be something worth seeing. THAT was the goal here - Perspective.
Even if there was temptation to go and cry for blood, I let the State deal with it. Because it is their job to carry out the sentencing,
provided they have evidence. If he served 20 years, that's how long he'll serve. By then, he won't be able to find me nor my child (if I had a
child, that is).
I wish, that I had the ability to trust the Justice System as much as you do; I however do not share your enthusiasm on this particular topic. The
option of Parole, and getting off on Good Behavior - are terms that would be on my mind constantly. NOT to mention to Defense attorney is going to TRY
THEIR hearts out searching for a technicality, and to make a Plea Bargain.
What if he got off? What if he NEVER went to Jail? What if there was Insufficient Evidence to Convict him? What if, Justice was never served for your
child...I pose to you another question, hypothetically:
How do you think you would feel? What do you think you would do? What would you tell your child? How would you tell your child that this man will not
be paying for his crimes?
In this situation, I don't know that I could exercise the self control NOT to put a bullet in his head. I don't know that I could do nothing...
Crying for blood, waiting 20 years for a death sentence to be carried out on the criminal is borderline obsessive and sick.
A death sentence is NOT going to help the victim get past it.
I agree that crying for blood is not a healthy way to live your life. Obsessing for a death sentence, is not healthy. Seeing a Psychologist to help
work through the problems, and cope with the situation is a much better approach.
However, the second part of your quote I disagree with. I think that for some
people, knowing that their abuser is dead, could offer them a
sense of closure; it doesn't make it right
(and that is NOT what I am suggesting), but, it could
help them move on.
So if my child gets abused, I'm on his/her side regardless. I have to make sure my child grows up and learn how to adapt, move ona and live.
The sweetest revenge is living well. Not living a bitter one.
Agreed. Making sure the child grows up and learns to cope with their experience is essential in their development into adults. Later on in life
though, these children will shows signs of abuse. These children will be affected for a long time, and long term therapy is probably one of the best
ways to deal with an issue such as this.
My mother (45) just started dealing with her abuse as a child. Nearly 40 years later, and she is JUST coming to terms with it now. She has problems
with sex, and problems with trusting men. After my Great Uncle Died, it all came out in the open. It turns out, not just my mother, but all of her
brothers and sisters, suffer from the same problems when it comes to sex and relationships...Would they be better off had they all had therapy and
counselling to help them cope? Probably.
After the discussion in Chat yesterday, I'm leaning towards your idea : The sweetest revenge is living well. Not living a bitter one.
This is true. But if I was a parent, and my child was a victim, I don't know that I could take the high road. I don't know that I wouldn't put a
bullet between his eyes. I don't know how I would act, or if I could surpress my anger. I would like to think that I wouldn't be spending the rest
of my life in prison - for murdering the sorry SOB - but, I just don't know.
But I have a more interesting question for you. What about those pedophile priests in church that have gotten away with it over 10 or 20 years?
Should there be justice or blood revenge for them?
Good Question. The victims of abuse by the said priests, would probably want revenge. And I can't blame them, as I don't know what they are feeling.
Justice, not revenge, is what I would want for the Victims. And the Priests(as well as other pedophiles) removed from Society, as I believe they are a
I leave you with your question as well: What do you think should be done about the pedophile preists? *Assuming there is no statute of limitations
which protects them from being convicted of a crime* (Do they have a statute of limitations on Rape/Child Molestation Cases? Probably differs with
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