Problem solved!

~goes for a cup of coffee and a smoke~

Agreed when these people are caught there needs to be a lot harsher sentencing, but i can easily see the vigilante aspect, just imagine if it was a member of your family.
Also your avatar is a little creepy

Originally posted by Finn1916
The only problem i have with it is whoever he molested's dad is obviously a pansy for not killing him sooner.

How do you know it wasn't him? Who knows.

[edit on 10-10-2008 by _Phoenix_]

The man was a paedophile and whilst, obviously, the abuse of children is something that cannot be condoned, I think this was wrong.

Yes, I accept the general idea that a lot of criminals don't get what is perceived as a 'just' punishment. However, whether the man got the sentence that other people think he deserved wasn't actually the paedophiles fault. Yes, he committed the crime(s) but he was sentenced within parameters that someone else set.

Also, the man was, to all intents and purposes, tried and given a death sentence outside of the law with no appeal. Half of the content on this site is based on outcries when governments and big business operate outside of what we perceive to be the law. There's current threads about how the army or the government are going to turn on us and place us in death camps &c.

However, this is what someone has done to this man. Someone has basically decided that he needed to die and was killed, all outside of the law in a country where we don't have a death penalty anyway for any crime.

Despite the fact I find paedophilia abhorrent, I can't see how anyone on this site could actually condone this man's murder.

[edit on 10-10-2008 by Merriman Weir]

Originally posted by Merriman Weir
Yes, I accept the general idea that a lot of criminals don't get what is perceived as a 'just' punishment. However, whether the man got the sentence that other people think he deserved wasn't actually the paedophiles fault. Yes, he committed the crime(s) but he was sentenced within parameters that someone else set.

The question is, who should be setting these parameters? We obviously don't have a say. This is why these things get out of control.

Actualy, only the public should be the arbiters of justice in this world. They are called juries. Of course when you have judges and parole boards that negate the wishes and vedicts as well as treat these criminals with kid gloves for violent crimes but give harse sentences to truly victimless crimes your going to get vigilante justice in the end. The citizens will take matters into their own hands and finish what a jury started.

One less leeching, warped, individual to worry the citizens.


Zindo

I'm sure he received just as much mercy as he gave to his victims.

I really don't like talking about this but my father was convicted of sexually abusing four young girls a few years ago, he was sentenced to four years in prison, which is nowhere near enough, and only served just over two years. Now my point is, I want to kill him MYSELF for what he has done and if I ever set eyes on him again I don't know if I'll be able (or want ) to stop myself. This man got what he deserved, children are the only future we have got and these sicko's destroy their innocence and their lives. I personally would sentence them to be put in a room full of mothers and there be no comeback on the mothers for what they do.

Originally posted by thebox
It's a case of two evils. One is a lenient judge (who is quite happy to allow a paedophile to live in a family-oriented neighbourhood), and the other is a mightily frustrated member of the public (with a murderous streak). Which is worse?

Which is worse? Liberal activist judges are the number 1 problem facing this nation from a justice standpoint without any doubt. I say when the system stops working for you, you do the job the system was intended to do. Dead pedophile? Not great loss.

Originally posted by sir_chancealot
I'm sure he received just as much mercy as he gave to his victims.

Yeah, whoever killed this guy basically did the world a favor. All convicted pedophiles should be executed, because it's just a matter of having an opportunity before they strike again! They can NOT be rehabilitated with any reliability, and therefor present an ever-present danger to society. For this reason they should be removed. And who knows, if we can get enough of them, maybe we can remove whatever genetic defect is causing these monsters to exist in the first place from our gene pool. Then future generations would have less to worry about! Of course, this would only work if we can get them before they have kids...

Originally posted by thebox

The question is, who should be setting these parameters? We obviously don't have a say. This is why these things get out of control.

To be honest, I think this is evidence of why the mob shouldn't always have a say. I can understand the anger and the hurt that paedophiles leave in their wake. However, that anger and hurt throws any sense of objectivity out of the window and surely we all want objectivity in our justice system? We don't want a legal discourse based on knee-jerk reactions and revenge do we?

In stories like this, it's never about justice, it's about revenge and trying to satisfy that anger and hurt.

The only crime I feel vigilantism is justified?
Pedophilia - and anything attached to child porn rings, pimping out children, child sex slaves, etc.
Hunt down the offenders and kill them.
Just keep the parents out of committing the murder.
Those kids need their parents at home and not serving time.
But vigilantism in the case where pedophiles have gotten off with a slap on the wrist.
Where do I sign up?

Do I think vigilantism will stop pedophilia in general?
Nope, and obviously neither does the system we have now.

The difference between the vigilante way and the governments way?
Pedophiles don’t get a second chance with vigilantes. Amen.

Do I think it will save another child's life - killing the pedophile?
Yep - And that’s all the justification I need, for me, to sleep well at night.



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