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reply posted on 10-10-2008 @ 11:28 AM by NOTurTypical
reply to post by mabus325



Is this the first time an Allah worshiper has believed in "the messiah"?



reply posted on 10-10-2008 @ 12:02 PM by Benevolent Heretic
Thank you for answering my questions.

Originally posted by GirlNextDoor
Regardless of how Mirriam-Webster's defines the word 'messiah', it is a religious term.


So, you just don't care how anyone else defines it, including Merriam Webster or
Brittanica or anyone else, it means to everyone what it means to you. What do Webster and Brittanica know, anyway? Now, that's an open-minded way of looking at it.


More loosely, the term messiah denotes any redeemer figure;



Farrakhan calling Obama the messiah labels him a religious figure. Religious figures are set up to be worshiped.


So, let's say your right. Farrakhan thinks that Obama is a religious figure and thinks we should worship him. What are the implications of Farrakhan thinking and saying this?

I mean, Pat Robertson thinks feminists kill their husbands, practice witchcraft and become lesbians...

So what?


Farrakhan is just feeding the cult of personality and worship surrounding Obama.


The only people who think there's a "Cult of Obama" are people who hate him. No one worships him and it wouldn't really matter if they did because it doesn't reflect on him, it reflects on them.


But hey, it's Farrakhan, so what else should I expect?


EXACTLY! Don't you see how silly it is to be upset or offended by something this man says or thinks?

[edit on 10-10-2008 by Benevolent Heretic]


reply posted on 10-10-2008 @ 04:02 PM by GirlNextDoor
Originally posted by Benevolent Heretic
So, you just don't care how anyone else defines it, including Merriam Webster or
Brittanica or anyone else, it means to everyone what it means to you. What do Webster and Brittanica know, anyway? Now, that's an open-minded way of looking at it.

Oh come on. It's a word with religious connotations, whichever way you slice it.

So, let's say your right. Farrakhan thinks that Obama is a religious figure and thinks we should worship him. What are the implications of Farrakhan thinking and saying this?

The implications are people don't think for themselves and they'll jump on the Obama-Is-The-S*** bandwagon because it's the popular, exciting thing to do.

I mean, Pat Robertson thinks feminists kill their husbands, practice witchcraft and become lesbians...

While Robertson is a quack, he never attributed religious or redeemer status on feminists. Or suggested our redeemer can be found among the feminists. Come on.


The only people who think there's a "Cult of Obama" are people who hate him. No one worships him and it wouldn't really matter if they did because it doesn't reflect on him, it reflects on them.

I didn't say cult of Obama. I said cult of personality, which is different. This is celebrity worship at its finest. His followers are quick to dismiss anything shady about him because they want to believe he is all they want him to be. You also are quick to brush off any kind of criticism of him. And before you flame me for being a neo-con whatever, understand that I'm not a fan of either side. But what I'm witnessing happening among the Obama crowd is just staggering. The rush to shrug off any hint of his involvement in shady deals or relationships and to quickly accept his promise of change, knowing full well that this change is fundamentally opposed to the founding ideals of our country leaves me absolutely gobsmacked. I think Obama's followers are so caught up in the excitement of his campaign that they can no longer think objectively. Just as is the case for blind followers of any celebrity. Ooooh, there he is, isn't he wonderful, wow, if only I could meet him, he's so amazing... And up on the pedestal he goes.


EXACTLY! Don't you see how silly it is to be upset or offended by something this man says or thinks?

Because he knows he has people who listen, and he knows the power of words. And he knows how to get people to follow because he knows most people stopped thinking for themselves long ago.

[edit on 10/10/08 by GirlNextDoor]

[edit on 10/10/08 by GirlNextDoor]


reply posted on 10-10-2008 @ 04:57 PM by Ameneter
reply to post by mabus325


Wait a minute here. Let's consult with Pat Robertson, who everybody knows, talks with God. First, let's get Robertson to confirm that Obama is indeed the Messiah. If this cannot be confirmed, then let us just ignore Farrakan's remarks as that of a false prophet.. All agree?


reply posted on 11-10-2008 @ 10:29 AM by grover
reply to post by _Phoenix_



Yeah I already posted a long passage from wiki about NOI and how it IS NOT Islam but some people just don't wanna be educated.


reply posted on 11-10-2008 @ 01:34 PM by beforetime
it all ties together if you can see.
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reply posted on 11-10-2008 @ 04:35 PM by Prima Facie
reply to post by _Phoenix_



There's a few videos on youtube of the nation of islam being exposed by orthodox muslims. One of the videos is shot at speakers corner in london and it is very funny.


reply posted on 11-10-2008 @ 04:44 PM by andy1033
Obama definately believes he is someone important. Listen to pat buchanan read a quote of obama talking about himself.



Listen to obama talking about himself, just who does obama think he is. Also what did bill clinton mean when he said that obama is the biggest fairy tale since when ever. What is the behind the scenes talk on obama.


reply posted on 13-10-2008 @ 09:51 AM by grover
reply to post by beforetime



There are no millions of NOI in the United States or anywhere else they are a fringe minority even within the African American community.

Besides that so what if there are some on his staff?
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