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Originally posted by bknapple32
reply to post by MissysWorld
i gave up on that video as soon as it said barack obama was born barry soreto.
we have the birth certificate folks. get over it.
Originally posted by Benevolent Heretic
Originally posted by sos37
Obama wouldn't have had the money to do this 30 minute ad if he hadn't broken one of his very first committments to using only public funds for his campaign.
You sound as "sour" as McCain does about this.
Obama promised to meet with McCain and discuss it. Their lawyers met and determined an agreement could not be reached. He never promised to use only public funds.
Source
In fact, Mr. Obama stopped short of making a flat promise to participate in the public financing system. Asked in a questionnaire whether he would take part if his opponents did the same, Mr. Obama wrote yes. But he added, “If I am the Democratic nominee, I will aggressively pursue an agreement with the Republican nominee to preserve a publicly financed general election.”
Obama's decision was a turnaround from a signed pledge to pursue an agreement with McCain to accept public funds and the spending limits that go with them. That was before Obama began hauling in record amounts of donations, and doing so would have meant surrendering a significant advantage over McCain. Negotiations between Obama and McCain never took place.
Democratic National Chairman Howard Dean is notorious for speaking his mind. (Remember what he did to that cat during his harangue upon losing in the Iowa caucuses back in January of 2004?)
But when it comes to whether Sen. Barack Obama is making a mistake to break his signed pledge to accept public funding for the general election campaign, the loquacious chairman and ex-governor (but it was only Vermont) turns suddenly mum.
Last year, Obama indicated he would accept public funds if his Republican opponent did as well. On Thursday, however, his spokesman hedged, and campaign finance watchdog groups are ready to pounce.
Based on past statements, Obama and Republican presidential candidate John McCain have indicated that if each was nominated, a spending and fundraising armistice was possible.
Sen. Barack Obama reversed his pledge to seek public financing in the general election yesterday, a move that drew criticism from adversaries and allies alike but could provide him with a significant spending advantage over Republican rival John McCain.
Originally posted by Mercenary2007
this 30 minute slot did nothing to help Obama! Lets Face it this 30 min slot did not change the minds of any voters, he didn't earn any new votes, its just a pep assembly for his supporters!
some people say it pulls at your heart strings, Come on you serious? why is it that only the devote Obamaites believe this garbage? the other 50% of the country see right thru this crap!
i watched the first 10 minutes and had to turn it off, it made me sick to my stomache that Americans would buy this socialist propaganda BS!
[edit on 10/29/2008 by Mercenary2007]
Originally posted by bknapple32
reply to post by sos37
The fact you replied with was a signed pledge to meet. The lawyers met with no conclusion. Where is the lie?
Originally posted by sos37
Originally posted by bknapple32
reply to post by sos37
The fact you replied with was a signed pledge to meet. The lawyers met with no conclusion. Where is the lie?
Neither story says that. In fact one says a "signed pledge to accept". The other says a "signed pledge to pursue".
Now you're just in denial of the facts. Nice try, but you failed, again.
Originally posted by sos37
Then why is a SIGNED PLEDGE from OBAMA mentioned in these links???
My plan requires both major party candidates to agree on a fundraising truce, return excess money from donors, and stay within the public financing system for the general election. My proposal followed announcements by some presidential candidates that they would forgo public financing so they could raise unlimited funds in the general election. The Federal Election Commission ruled the proposal legal, and Senator John McCain (r-AZ) has already pledged to accept this fundraising pledge. If I am the Democratic
nominee, I will aggressively pursue an agreement with the Republican nominee to preserve a publicly financed general election.
Question: If you are nominated for President in 2008 and your major opponents agree to forgo private funding in the general election campaign, will you participate in the presidential public financing system?
OBAMA: Yes. I have been a long-time advocate for public financing of campaigns combined with free television and radio time as a way to reduce the influence of moneyed special interests.
My plan requires both major party candidates to agree on a fundraising truce, return excess money from donors, and stay within the public financing system for the general election.
My proposal followed announcements by some presidential candidates that they would forgo public financing so they could raise unlimited funds in the general election. The Federal Election Commission ruled the proposal legal, and Senator John McCain (r-AZ) has already pledged to accept this fundraising pledge. If I am the Democratic nominee, I will aggressively pursue an agreement with the Republican nominee to preserve a publicly financed general election.