Mobile BOB.

Question..

How do you get this....?











To here..
without breaking your back ... or enlisting the help of a passing camel.??






ANSWER..



Trailer..

3-4 times the speed of travelling on foot,and the realistic target of putting 50 - 60 miles between you and 'whatever' in one day.

That's coming from someone definitely NOT in peak condition too..
With another couple of months training,that target could reach treble figures.

This one's capacity is at 120 litres and 30kg..That's without loading up panniers etc..
In other words..that's a LOT of gear you can take at speed,and easily repacked to head elsewhere if you find yourself in a less than ideal location at first attempt..

If anyone is interested in the performance/alternatives,drop a reply and I'll do a more detailed breakdown..but this worked excellent for me.
Your needs may be way different.

I'm sure our resident "engineers" will be interested/able to *cough* knock up something similar



Next thread will be titled.

"Coping With Hemorrhoids".

Id have to go with the passing camel.

Too many hills/mountains/rivers in my way for a bike. I do have a 4 wheeler, could get me part of the way, but ATV's leave a nice trail behind. So much for my back.

This is a very good idea, can haul a ton of stuff that way, tire patches and a pump wouldnt be a bad idea either.

Nice pics, nice little part of the world you are headed to.

Hey T!

That looks like a really good idea, what does it feel like to ride with? Also how stable is it when you're going down winding paths does it rock around or is it smooth running all the way??

If its as good as it looks I might have to knock up something similar

Originally posted by salchanra tire patches and a pump wouldnt be a bad idea either.

Too right. (Copious amounts in the little red saddle bag next to mini pump..and spare tubes).

I actually punctured both tubes changing from road to trail tyres and was faced with a VERY out of date repair kit.. Now I got instant sealing patches so punctures aren't such a hassle.
Must remember to check tyres for thorns before replacing patched tubes.That's REALLY annoying to forget.

Even if your bum starts to hurt from cycling,you can still push the stuff a lot easier than backpacking it.

reply to post by AGENT_T


Any way you could list your survival items? Its the breaking point for me and you look pretty prepared. Gotta start making my list and would love some advice.

reply to post by fred3110


You CAN feel the difference in weight and manouvering.Not much more than back panniers though..
but first day I loaded it with weight and crashed around a local overgrown riverside park.It barges its way through 4ft high nettles n thistles quite happily.(well,happier than I did)

Downhill.. At first attempt I was expecting it to overtake me and head toward the river,but it stayed right where it was supposed too.. actually uphill is MUCH trickier.
The front wheel lifts when you put a lot of effort into pedalling,and if you're going slow you can have quite a ball- keeping the bike on track..Best to keep the speed up as much as possible.

I crashed it numerous times and it doesn't detach.. VERY secure.
I was nervous at first with the simple bend and clip on bar attachment but it works brill.

Comes with a replacement quick release spindle with ball fittings for the back wheel..nice touch too.

Skidding it through mud and rain..no probs..
I felt much better about taking it on the road after a good hammer at breaking it off-road.. I didn't want it scooting off into the road and damaging a car haha.

Even the local cops were taking an interest for their MTB squads.

Originally posted by AGENT_T

Originally posted by salchanra tire patches and a pump wouldnt be a bad idea either.

Too right. (Copious amounts in the little red saddle bag next to mini pump..and spare tubes).

I actually punctured both tubes changing from road to trail tyres and was faced with a VERY out of date repair kit.. Now I got instant sealing patches so punctures aren't such a hassle.
Must remember to check tyres for thorns before replacing patched tubes.That's REALLY annoying to forget.

Even if your bum starts to hurt from cycling,you can still push the stuff a lot easier than backpacking it.

Why dont you change over to the puncture proof bike tyres they make in middlesbrough ??? I think they come from the green tyre company. The wifes cousing has a MB with some sort of anti puncture thing fitted to his MB as well, It could be a foam or insert ?

Just did a google Continental apparently make a cycle tyre with a kevlar band on the inside, plus theres these two links
See www.greentyre.com... or www.airfreetires.com...


[edit on 9-10-2008 by Northern Raider]

Nice one! It sounds like a good addition for bugging out I'm serrrriously thinking about getting myself one now! Is that one you have cobbled together or was it shop bought?

For going uphill try leaning on the handle bars and soften the suspension a little bit, that should help.....if that fails I suppose you could get some 30Kg counterweights to put on the front

reply to post by bringthelight


Sure..
That pack contains.

80+20 Litre backpack with 2 extra side pouches webbed on.
2-3 man tent.5,000mm hydrostatic head is the important bit.
1 IPK (Individual protection kit)
1 Self inflate sleep mat.. yeah sounds soft I know,but excellent ground insulation for winter.
Snugpak sleeper. -12c sleeping bag.
3 liners (silk/cotton and thermal..)Various weather/temp conditions.. You could sleep through an ice age
2 survival bags
1 Trangia stove.
2 aluminium pans
forks/openersknife set.
2 firesteels,2lighters,mayadust,magnesium block
Home-made lighter material..(Tumbledrier fluff soaked in gel cooker fuel) works great.
1 Solar battery charger
1 solar torch
1 headlamp/torch.
spare rechargeable batteries
Collins Gem books...

Food for free
Mushrooms
Lofty's SAS survival guide.
UK sea life(forget the name)

Compass.
UK map
Survival tin
2 mini-saws
Jack pike 3" fixed camp knife.
Safety goggles/suntinted uv proof
Monocular(can be used for orienteering or firestarting.
Water-bootle(standard)
Lifesaver.. waterfilter.. Chemical,bacterial and viral safe.
Poncho
Packaway waterproofs(light but very effective)
Mini sewing/repair kit
Scissors
Wire/metal cutters
customised fishing kit.
Mini towel
First aid kit
Caribiner mug
Clothes/underwear.
Gators/boots

My special recipe granola and trail mix for travelling.
weeks supply beef jerky.
Plus room for specialised 'sit-x' items unable to list here..


And probably a load of stuff I've forgotten is in there

*****
Edit after looking at pics

1 tube savlon antispetic
1 Tub waterproof matches
25m paracord
extralight tentpegs(fits poncho nicely)
2 reflective hypothermia blankets
Mozie spray
pair gloves
walking poles.


[edit on 9-10-2008 by AGENT_T]

reply to post by AGENT_T


Thanks so much that is a huge help. I looked at other BOB lists but yours seemed to be the most legit. Any idea of the total cost?

reply to post by Northern Raider


It was my ham-fisted frozen fingered tyre changing that punctured them.
The road tyres are REALLY tight fitting onto the wheel rim and I was losing patience.. Just had to start again.. Count to 1...2...3

Another option is a flexible strip that fits over knobbly tyres to turn them 'road'

Still looking at the options around.cheers for the link.

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BRINGTHELIGHT
www.abovetopsecret.com...

I started this a wee while ago when thing were first turning poopoo and more people were asking around for an economical kit.

Lots of great tips/alternatives/preferences from other members in there too.

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FREDDYBABE..

Yeah I bought this one.Hols were approaching,time was short and my van needed a new alternator

I was thinking about counterbalancing it with front panniers..need a few mair Kg's off me fat arse forst tho
Poor bike will be looking for the oxygen mask too.

haha I'll overlook "freddybabe"!!!

Dont worry about sorting out counterweights yet, have a go at adjusting the suspension on the bike first, I'd harden the rear suspension and soften the front while leaning over the handle bars, that should give you enough weight on the front to counter the trailer

There's a bit in their promovid about a minute in,where the guy is belting it along a track.. It really is that balanced.
I don't see myself doing that kinda speed with it unless I'm in Kielder being chased by the vampire teletubbies or something..but nice to know it's possible.

Four folds and clipping the belts makes it waterproof enough that,when you press on it,it feels pretty airtight..keeping in the air..Certainly enough to keep your clothes n gear dry in a downpour.

I love how it makes it look so easy to clip on. when you're balancing your bike AND a loaded trailer.. it's not quite THAT easy.

Best way is to clip the bar to the back hub first.. THEN clip back of bar to trailer while you keep back bike steady between your legs.

If you use a roofrack strap over the top..You can use it to support the load AND strap your backpack and winter jacket to the top above the yellow bags..

Originally posted by AGENT_T
I'm sure our resident "engineers" will be interested/able to *cough* knock up something similar

Hmm...I likes a challenge!

Could you post-up a few detail-photos of the trailer structure, mounting system and the like to get the little grey cells ticking over?

The Bikeatron cometh!

Have you cycling chaps seen the twin wheel trailers they use for goods and child carrying at Centre Parcs ?, they look useful.

Originally posted by citizen smith

Could you post-up a few detail-photos of the trailer structure, mounting system and the like to get the little grey cells ticking over?

The Bikeatron cometh!

Even better,a demo in persona. R.V

You can feel the awesome comfort of my gel saddle cover..Once i have it surgically removed..

NORTHERNRAIDER.

Yeah I was perusing a few different models.. The two wheelers are great once they're static for stability.loading/unloading is a lot easier too..
It's just that they skip to the outside at speed because they don't lean with the bike in corners..scary when there's a car trying to overtake.

Blighters shouldn't overtake you on corners but you know these blummin northern drivers.

Bumpy tracks are like towing a chimpanzee on a pogo stick after he's had 15 pints.

The single wheel types follow you much nicer.

cool bug out system, i was thinkink along the lines of a couple of Enduro bikes 250 - 500cc fitted with front and back paniers. But for quick bug out this is a brilliant plan.

good job mate.

reply to post by AmbroseRokewood


Cheers.. I'd MUCH rather go the Enduro way.. I LURVVV Motorbikes.(even though they don't like me at all).

But it's that wet stuff that makes the engine go round and round thats the prob.

Anything that you can't be assured of obtaining is a liability.

KTM 450.. Wooot wooot....Crash!!!

true fuel could be a problem. but in a sitX any vehicle on the road side would surfice, and not to sound mad but in that sittuation for the initial bug out, every man for himself. Me and my group will not show any compasion towards anyone who gets in the way of us geting ourselves and those who are with us to safety. I know it sounds a tad extreme but we would be in extreme cicumstances. And unfortunatly that would make everyone at first a threat to me and my own.

Dudes, is there anyway to change BOB to Sit-X bag or something other that "bob", every time I see that it reminds me of what women in the States call thier Dild**s "battery operated boyfriend" i.e. BOB.