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Aussies joke - and hope - that China can save capitalism

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posted on Oct, 9 2008 @ 12:07 PM
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Aussies joke - and hope - that China can save capitalism


www.breitbart.com

A cartoon on the front page of Australia's national newspaper Thursday neatly illustrates an irony admitted by the government: communist China could save capitalism.
The illustration shows a Chinese man in a Superman outfit telling exactly this to a bankrupt, cigar-smoking Wall Street tycoon covering his nakedness in a barrel.

"Oh, you're just loving this, aren't you," the fallen high-flyer replies in the cartoon in The Australian.

Amid turmoil in the world financial sector, the International Monetary Fund predicted Wednesday that China's economy would grow at more than 9.0 percent next year while much of the West faces recession.

That's good news for Australia, whose own economic boom has been driven for years by China's insatiable demand for mineral resources such as iron ore for steelmaking and coal to fire up its industries.

"China is now a major influence in the world economy and it's significant that the IMF doesn't downgrade its growth prospects," Finance Minister Lindsay Tanner told national radio Thursday.

"So we are well positioned to continue to sell an awful lot of exports to China and we believe that that's one of the important factors that's protecting Australia, to some extent, from the influences of the US financial crisis," he said.

Tanner's remarks followed those of Prime Minister Kevin Rudd, a Chinese-speaking former diplomat who has made building closer ties with Beijing a central plank of his foreign policy since taking office last year.

"China has a huge impact on the economies of the east Asia region, as well as the global economy," Rudd said Wednesday.

"My understanding is that China will continue to drive strong economic growth for its own national purposes, but that's also good for countries like Australia because China is such a major trading partner of ours."
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posted on Oct, 9 2008 @ 12:07 PM
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It truly is a sad commentary on capitalism to know that in order for it to survive, it has to be bailed out by communism.

Is communism in it's current form, and capitalism the same thing? Is the liberal agenda not a veiled form of communism?

Is the chicom government not basically a form of liberalism with a dash of "fairness doctrine" thrown in to keep the critics at bay?

As we move past this crisis and get back to work furthering the democracy, who will have the better argument? Democracy or communism?



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[edit on 10/9/2008 by TheRooster]



posted on Oct, 9 2008 @ 12:12 PM
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What we have in this country is not capitalism any longer. If it were it would save itself IMO. So arguing that communism is better blah blah is a moot point, cause we do not have true capitalism in this country any longer.



posted on Oct, 9 2008 @ 12:53 PM
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Originally posted by dlongwell547
What we have in this country is not capitalism any longer. If it were it would save itself IMO. So arguing that communism is better blah blah is a moot point, cause we do not have true capitalism in this country any longer.


Is there a word for what we have? I'm not disagreeing wtih you, but what exactly do you call what we have now, socialism?



posted on Oct, 9 2008 @ 12:59 PM
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Originally posted by TheRooster
Is there a word for what we have? I'm not disagreeing wtih you, but what exactly do you call what we have now, socialism?


A slightly socialist version of fascism.



posted on Oct, 9 2008 @ 01:17 PM
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Originally posted by Dermo

Originally posted by TheRooster
Is there a word for what we have? I'm not disagreeing wtih you, but what exactly do you call what we have now, socialism?


A slightly socialist version of fascism.


So that makes us "fascialists"? The dems have a jackass, the republicans have an elephant, what would make a good "pet" to symbolize a fascialist? A unicorn?



posted on Oct, 9 2008 @ 01:26 PM
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Can you back that up? How are we socialist now?

Do you just mean in welfare programs or are you talking about the bail out?

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No, he can't because it's not true. It's just the latest in buzz words going around that the democrats are turning us socialists. That's why you are hearing a ton of people saying it now, instead of a few months ago.

I am sure there may have been a few people saying it then, but not to this level. Buzz words suck because they cause posts like that.

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I agree with the fascism part. Don't know about the "socialized" version. But yes, whenever an executive power supersedes investigation and acts above the law, it's very close to a fascist regime.



posted on Oct, 9 2008 @ 01:38 PM
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So what are your thoughts on the unicorn?



posted on Oct, 9 2008 @ 01:50 PM
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Unicorns are a bit fruity for me. I think I would prefer Chuck Norris as my party's logo.



posted on Oct, 9 2008 @ 01:56 PM
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It's pretty much the beginnings of a Fascist State.

The writing appears to be on the wall.



posted on Oct, 9 2008 @ 01:57 PM
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See what I mean. ^^^

Lot's of opinion, no evidence. Buzz words are a giant fail boat.



posted on Oct, 9 2008 @ 02:04 PM
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No evidence?!?

Have you been paying attention the last 4-8 years or what?

The Executive branch has amassed unprecedented and dangerous power; we're seeing nationalization of corporations and more and more reports of oppressive behaviors by law enforcement all over the place.

Stroke of a pen, Bush is for all intents and purposes a dictator.

Did I say we're there? No.

Did I say it's the beginning? Yes, and I stand by it.

Look around you.

P.S. WTF?!


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I agree with the fascism part. Don't know about the "socialized" version. But yes, whenever an executive power supersedes investigation and acts above the law, it's very close to a fascist regime.


So you agree one minute, and then it's a buzzword... can't have it both ways.

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posted on Oct, 9 2008 @ 02:07 PM
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Originally posted by Sublime620
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Unicorns are a bit fruity for me. I think I would prefer Chuck Norris as my party's logo.


Ahhhh. But which Chuck Norris? The Walker Texas Ranger Chuck Norris, or Delta Force Chuck Norris?

By the way, if you're having a bad day, check this out, it will put a smile on your face instantly: www.thechucknorrisfacts.com...



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