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Analysis: data mining doesn't work for spotting terrorists




Topic started on 9-10-2008 @ 10:53 AM by Maxmars


Analysis: data mining doesn't work for spotting terrorists


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"Automated identification of terrorists through data mining (or any other known methodology) is neither feasible as an objective nor desirable as a goal of technology development efforts."
—Protecting Individual Privacy in the Struggle Against Terrorists: A Framework for Program Assessment, pp. 27-28
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reply posted on 9-10-2008 @ 10:53 AM by Maxmars


The report makes an iron-clad case that data mining might be an effective counter-terrorism tool if used judiciously, but it is not the silver bullet that the architects of Total Information Awareness and its relatives believe it to be. In short, betting the safety of the country on data mining is effectively a bet on the operational incompetence of terrorists. And, given what we know of our enemies' increasing sophistication, that's not a bet that we should make.


Is there even the remotest possibility that those in charge of promoting and selling the "Total Information Awareness" to the ever-fearing congress will actually give weight to this report? I wonder. After all the tax-payers paid for the organization's report... it must therefore be a worthless.

For those of you wondering what the the National Research Council does :

The mission of the NRC is to improve government decision making and public policy, increase public education and understanding, and promote the acquisition and dissemination of knowledge in matters involving science, engineering, technology, and health. The institution takes this charge seriously and works to inform policies and actions that have the power to improve the lives of people in the U.S. and around the world.


sites.nationalacademies.org...


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reply posted on 10-10-2008 @ 05:02 PM by MemoryShock





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reply posted on 13-10-2008 @ 01:49 PM by xman_in_blackx


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Data mining or key words or flagged words would never assist in finding anyone other than those who are vocal/verbal about their thoughts and fears.

TIA isn't about finding terrorists. It never was unless you consider your citizens terrorists. It is a great way to put your finger on the pulse of the country. It can easily see relationships between people/social groups/purchases etc for planning and policies.

People who are "of interest" would know that they are being looked at and stay off the grid with cell phones/phones/e-mail, snail mail, etc. People who are up to no good would speak face to face or use code words. None of these would be a flagged word such as hijack or bomb. The bad guys are not stupid and assuming such is a waste of money and a complete waste of analyst's time.

Intel should ALWAYS be gathered "old school" by someone who is inside the group.

I would even suggest that camera systems have their limits. If it worked, then why does crime still exist in locations where cameras were specifically placed solve those issues? (London)

What does data mining/wiretaps/cameras also accomplish? Fear. Simple. Effective.

Only sheeple will believe that this is needed to "help" fight terror.

Obey. Work. Consume.



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