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reply posted on 9-10-2008 @ 06:25 PM by sdrawkcabII
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True words. I agree with you and RealTruth 100%. Call it like you see it. I have nothing more to add, so excuse the one-liner.
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reply posted on 9-10-2008 @ 06:28 PM by Anonymous ATS
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Wake up. Not to turn this into a religious discussion, but the world could use a little more Godlessness. Religion bred the terrorists who attacked on
9/11, Religion has dictated America's foreign policy for the last 8 years (my source is a quote from Bush himself), and as Reinhardt theorizes, a
religious group is responsible for the economic crisis. Genocide, Slavery, Rape, Murder, War Crimes, and Prejudice, all have been justified by
Religion. And sadly, I can give you citations where each of these are found and condoned by God in the Bible.
As long as people look to the divine, or the supernatural, or to other things that do not exist, they will never be able to get to the real problem,
and that is greed. As said above, those in power shall always be corrupted. The constitution was designed with this in mind, and served as a good
check of powers. As time passed however, it was able to be undermined. If somehow (and i don't believe it is possible) the government is overthrown,
a new modernized constitution will be needed to prevent the distribution of power into the hands of a few. If that can't happen, no matter what the
intentions are, the new government will eventually become like the old.
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reply posted on 9-10-2008 @ 06:29 PM by VDOG.45
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This demise of the World banking systems was part of the plans to create the New World Order!
I was not blinded by this but, alas I serve in the US Military and have for many. many years.
Not understanding that the elites of the World where really in control until George HW Bush came to power. Then Clinton and his Socialist agenda.
More of the same under George W Bush, The New World Order...
John F. Kennedy and Ronald Reagan tried to stop it... with no luck. Both where killed and tried to be killed by puppets of the NWO!
All I can say is buy food, water, ammo and guns. Stay in close knit communities. Move out of big cities if you can! Get into the country and be
self sufficient. The time has come to rely on you, your friends and Family.
We have made it through worse things than this and we can make it through this as well.
I've lost all of my life savings in the stock market and will never be able to afford to retire now. But, I have been buying gold, silver, food,
water, guns and ammo for just such what is happening.
Everyone calls me a crazy old Marine.......... all I can say is - Really Now?
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reply posted on 9-10-2008 @ 06:34 PM by suspense101
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To expand on my original post I have added this:
In order to effectivly and efficentally restore our country's future, a revolution is neccessary. Our government has continously failed its people
and intentionally disregarded our best interests. When will we realize that although the best solution is a peacefull one, our cries are falling upon
deaf ears. I will be the first to admit that the Revolution will not be easy nor without bloodshed. To tell yoiu we can overthrow the government
without casualties would be misinforming and dishonest. The fact is that the benifits greatly outweigh the risks. Our country is on a path to self
destruction and will continue to worsen as long as we allow corrupt officials to remain in control.. I assure everyone reading this post that it is
possible to achieve our goals. I also humbly admit I don't have all the answers to the best way to handle things. This is where I ask "you" the
people of America, for input and suggestions benefitial to achieving a common want and need..........Freedom, Liberty and Justice for all.
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reply posted on 9-10-2008 @ 06:34 PM by Harrisboy42
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Even though I'm british, I have a good deal of respect for you OP. However, I don't think that the american population is going to do anything about
it.. Everyone, as soon as they hear "New World Order", "Conspiracy", etc etc, they automatically assume you're a nutjob and laugh at you.
What they need to realise is that in a few years time, they'll forget what laughter was.
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reply posted on 9-10-2008 @ 06:38 PM by Anonymous ATS
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Some of the best freedom fighters in WWII Germany and Russia worked right in the munitions plants.
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reply posted on 9-10-2008 @ 06:43 PM by Anonymous ATS
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Simple solution.
Vote the Bums out.
Any incumbent, regardless of party affiliation, should be voted out of office. Period.
That's how I'm voting.
I once took an oath to defend the Constitution. I will continue to do so.
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reply posted on 9-10-2008 @ 06:45 PM by RegionalChaos
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Originally posted by Interestinggg
Can you imagine the thoughts of a soldier, when confronted with an army, of 40 million people?
Yeah, I think it would be "Better send in the air force"...
Thats my guess anyway..
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reply posted on 9-10-2008 @ 06:49 PM by falcon
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Jesse Ventura Called for this some time ago I called for it in 2004 when I saw this and alot of other things like this heading down the turn pike. I
have stayed out of this years election mainly because I see a deep divide and it doesnt look good on many fronts if you get a demoncrat in the
presidency you get a full house senate and congress with a president that can streamline elimination of rights.
On the other hand if you get a repubracrat in office you will have a bush supporter in office and thats the last thing the united states needs. I
believe its going to be the covert agencies that are going to have to take matters into the own hands soon and I do believe its going to get bloody
very soon.
Why I dont advicate viloence I believe it is not that far off on the horizon. I took a oath to protect and defend the constitution not the united
states government. And clearly not the people who currently run the congress. Thats all im going to say about it right now but if I were congress I
would watch out there are alot of people in the spy agencies you people in washington and else where have rubbed the wrong way I have a really good
feeling its about to come back on all of you.
Falcon
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reply posted on 9-10-2008 @ 06:50 PM by RegionalChaos
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Blood doesn't need to be shed people.
Think Velvet Revolution! Your voice and opinion and numbers can still be heard!
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reply posted on 9-10-2008 @ 06:51 PM by Sailor1
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Originally posted by ofhumandescent
reply to post by suspense101
I agree with you. But, how? Do we grab our guns and pitch forks and march on Washington? Do we not vote (the last election was rigged
anyway). Do we write nasty letters to our senators and congressmen?
It is the corporations that now own our sorry arses.
I'm open to suggestions.
If I may suggest.. Those same corporation NEED US not the other way around, a public boycott of any corporation that uses undue methods of "buying
elected officials" remember, regardless of how many congressmen are bought the ultimate power is with the people, for instance if America woke up
and adopted the idea of "be your own bank" avoid credit like it was the plague (which it is by the way) the financial biz would be begging for
mercy..
Sailor
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reply posted on 9-10-2008 @ 06:51 PM by mike dangerously
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I wolud love to see the people of this nation wake up,but time is quickly runing out for us to effect change,y'all can vote if you really think it
will make any difference but,I wonder how many Americans are really willing to take that step?
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reply posted on 9-10-2008 @ 07:02 PM by Sonya610
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Originally posted by suspense101
To expand on my original post I have added this:
In order to effectivly and efficentally restore our country's future, a revolution is neccessary. Our government has continously failed its people
and intentionally disregarded our best interests. When will we realize that although the best solution is a peacefull one, our cries are falling upon
deaf ears. I will be the first to admit that the Revolution will not be easy nor without bloodshed.
The exuberance of youth! Two facts to consider:
A) People will NOT violently overthrow their government until their pain level exceeds the risk. That is why Saddam Hussein was so comfy ruling Iraq,
if the pain exceeds the gain people will NOT act out.
B) It is really not a good idea to say anything that could possibly be construed as a threat against the life of our Commander and Chief. Really,
whether it is vague, a joke, whatever. It is really NOT a smart idea. The secret service follows up on even the most ridiculous of internet jokes or
insinuations that imply any sort of threat.
The best of us probably already have an FBI file and don't care, but you are 22, maybe one day you will want a job where it does matter.
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reply posted on 9-10-2008 @ 07:17 PM by suspense101
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Originally posted by Sonya610
Originally posted by suspense101
To expand on my original post I have added this:
In order to effectivly and efficentally restore our country's future, a revolution is neccessary. Our government has continously failed its people
and intentionally disregarded our best interests. When will we realize that although the best solution is a peacefull one, our cries are falling upon
deaf ears. I will be the first to admit that the Revolution will not be easy nor without bloodshed.
It is really not a good idea to say anything that could possibly be construed as a threat against the life of our Commander and Chief. Really, whether
it is vague, a joke, whatever. It is really NOT a smart idea. The secret service follows up on even the most ridiculous of internet jokes or
insinuations that imply any sort of threat.
The best of us probably already have an FBI file and don't care, but you are 22, maybe one day you will want a job where it does matter.
[edit on 9-10-2008 by Sonya610]
First of all it was not a joke by any means. Second of all if I am to be persecuted for exercising my free speech rights it makes me fight for a
revolution even harder. Our so-called commander and chief however is a joke and should be punished to the maximum extent allowed for treason and war
crimes. Damn the Patriot Act!!
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reply posted on 9-10-2008 @ 07:18 PM by Anonymous ATS
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Revolutions can be done with intent. Mind over matter is the ultimate secret. Create the world you want to see with your mind, and it will manifest
into physicality. You create your own reality.  Believe it, and it will come true.
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reply posted on 9-10-2008 @ 07:22 PM by VDOG.45
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reply posted on 9-10-2008 @ 07:26 PM by ADVISOR
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I must disagree with the title, and argue against such with a bit of my general Advisor'isms. Get ready for A typical (ie Advisor typical) quotes.
Let us not over throw the US of A's government, but TAKE BACK the Nation.
This is the Country of We The People, not them the government or corporations. It just isn't, read the Declaration, read the Bill of
Rights, and Constitution, it says so, and we all know what those words say.
Do we not?
I'll reiterate, this is going to be slightly long, please bear with me as I know it is important.
When in the Course of human events, it becomes necessary for one people to dissolve the political bands which have connected them with another,
and to assume among the powers of the earth, the separate and equal station to which the Laws of Nature and of Nature's God entitle them, a decent
respect to the opinions of mankind requires that they should declare the causes which impel them to the separation...
That to secure these rights, Governments are instituted among Men, deriving their just powers from the consent of the governed, --That whenever any
Form of Government becomes destructive of these ends, it is the Right of the People to alter or to abolish it, and to institute new Government, laying
its foundation on such principles and organizing its powers in such form, as to them shall seem most likely to effect their Safety and Happiness.
Prudence, indeed, will dictate that Governments long established should not be changed for light and transient causes; and accordingly all experience
hath shewn, that mankind are more disposed to suffer, while evils are sufferable, than to right themselves by abolishing the forms to which they are
accustomed. But when a long train of abuses and usurpations, pursuing invariably the same Object evinces a design to reduce them under absolute
Despotism, it is their right, it is their duty, to throw off such Government, and to provide new Guards for their future security
The Declaration of Independence
About our finances, please take note of bolded text:
Section. 8.
The Congress shall have Power To lay and collect Taxes, Duties, Imposts and Excises, to pay the Debts and provide for the common Defence and general
Welfare of the United States; but all Duties, Imposts and Excises shall be uniform throughout the United States;
To borrow Money on the credit of the United States;
Section. 10.
No State shall enter into any Treaty, Alliance, or Confederation; grant Letters of Marque and Reprisal; coin Money; emit Bills of Credit; make any
Thing but gold and silver Coin a Tender in Payment of Debts; pass any Bill of Attainder, ex post facto Law, or Law impairing the Obligation of
Contracts, or grant any Title of Nobility.
Section. 4.
The United States shall guarantee to every State in this Union a Republican Form of Government, and shall protect each of them against Invasion; and
on Application of the Legislature, or of the Executive (when the Legislature cannot be convened), against domestic Violence.
The Constitution of the United States
Amendment II
A well regulated Militia, being necessary to the security of a free State, the right of the people to keep and bear Arms, shall not be infringed.
Amendment X
The powers not delegated to the United States by the Constitution, nor prohibited by it to the States, are reserved to the States respectively, or to
the people.
The Bill of Rights
United We Stand, The Rest Is, Not An Option!
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reply posted on 9-10-2008 @ 07:31 PM by Sonya610
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Originally posted by suspense101Our so-called commander and chief however is a joke and should be punished to the maximum extent allowed
for treason and war crimes. Damn the Patriot Act!!
LOL. Well good luck with your agenda. Perhaps you will emerge as the new leader after the revolution!
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reply posted on 9-10-2008 @ 07:35 PM by VDOG.45
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I wish that where true. "We the people, Hijacked by the Rich are now subjects in their kingdom which we really have no say in any matters"
Now, prove to me this is not so. We elect the wealthy landowners to govern us thinking they have our best interest at heart. They listen to us speak
but, the lobbyist speak with more money then we make in 10 years for their campaign.
We do not really have a voice at all, our voice becomes silenced by greed and money of the very people we elected!
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reply posted on 9-10-2008 @ 07:53 PM by suspense101
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Thank you ADVISOR for your posting of fact based material. I am familiar with these documents and they further go to show how far we have strayed
from our original country values.
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