Originally posted by marg6043
That is the problem with many Americans they have not clue as to the circumstances that somebody in a middle or higher income may find themselves overnight and prompt them to live on government assistance.

but then what happen when is not employment to fill the income gap?.

They will lose everything.
Because actually is the middle class tax payer the one that is been scammed as the poor do not pay taxes at all.

sorry marg, i've chopped your post a little for size.
i cannot disagree more with you. why should anybody be kept in the comfort to which they have become accustomed? if you haven't got enough money to support your lifestyle, change your lifestyle. there is a whole lot of gradients between a five bedroom, 3000sq ft house in the burbs and homelessness.

people need to get real, you might have a right to expect a means tested subsistence income, but there is no reason i can see that the guy paying taxes on his job at mcdonalds should pay your lifestyle bills.

I should also add that most labor depts. (at least in my area) offer all kinds of help. They will help you fill out resumes, offer programs for retraining for career changes, GED programs, computer and internet access, active job postings, alternative search options, etc.

As long as you abide by their rules they can be a lot of help. Sometimes things just don't work out, especially when a whole area dependent on a single industry goes under.

I saw a thing on TV a while back that kind of put things in perspective.

A women was interviewed after losing her job (can't remember what but it was relevant) because a Super WalMart went up in her town. Now that she has to scrape to get by, she is forced to shop at the WalMart because they cost less.

Kind of a vicious circle, having to give your money to the company that caused your unemployment. Maybe she ended up getting a job at the WalMart, dunno.

I agree with them. Time is coming when the right is going to put those FEMA camps to good use and toss the socialist left wing scumbags in there. Our American version of 1938. No I am not kidding.

This is where my being a conservative splits off completely from the GOP and the current administration. Republicans who identify with Hannity, Limbaugh, Cheny, Bush and so on are NOT REPUBLICANS! They are fascist hiding under a GOP blanket.

The purpose of unemployment is to give a person the time they need to find a job in the industry they are trained for and possibly invested a great deal of money on education in order to work in.

It serves the nation's best interest to maintain these people in the same station in life, especially the skilled workers using money contributed by employers and workers than encouraging everyone to accept any job and take a huge drop in lifestyle. For one, we want people to continue to pay the same amount in taxes. Do you folks not get that without unemployment our middle class would constantly be sliding downwards into lesser paying jobs?

Companies and the government want to play the global workforce game and take jobs away from Americans who often went into debt in order to get those positions. Each job shipped out of our country takes tax dollars and consumer spending money with it. People who think the benefit of the bribes paid to politicians and possible stock dividends outweigh that loss are clueless. Then these same politicians who helped take jobs out of the country turn around and call the victims of those policies lazy and parasitic.

Meanwhile, the banks and corporations who wanted to jump on the gravy train and play fast and loose with your investment money are all collapsing. These same people who get all offended over unemployment insurance seem to have no problem handing billions over to corrupt and incompetent CEO's.

You folks who defend that attitude just keep enjoying fantasy land. I know you think you're special, that the pain everyone is in for won't take everything away from you and your family. Just keep believing that lie.

We need change people and that change is not going to be gained from anyone in the democratic or republican parties. Your govt doesn't care about you, they never have and they never will. You are simply here to supply the elite with labor and money, don't you dare ask to be treated fairly.

There are jobs out there. They just happen to pay minimum wage, are +30 miles away from where you live, and either work you to death or not nearly enough. Our unemployment rate may only be 6 percent (if you trust government figures ) but the underemployment I've heard is around 15% and likely going to go way up.

Is it worth spending 50 dollars a week on gas if your job only pays 200 or less?

Originally posted by nyk537
Don't give me "skill shortage". The ability to gain those skills is also readily available. If you aren't smart enough for a job, go back to school. If you can't do a certain trade for a job, learn it. It's simple. The fact remains, whether or not you choose to believe it, that the means to succeed are out there. People just have to have the motivation to go after them.

Ah. Go back to school that you can't afford. Good thought, that.

So simple. Go further into debt so that you can vie with all the others for the few jobs that are available. I LIKE that reasoning!

The fact remains that the few who do succeed are the lucky ones, while many of us, fully trained, have applied to 100-150 jobs a week for over 2 years, in person and on the 'net, and are still unemployed.

Perhaps you are writing from a different planet?