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posted on Oct, 14 2008 @ 05:41 PM
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No, not at all. We're all here to be Gods and Goddesses and Kings and Queens among and amongst one another.

Yep, thats the first thing that happens, the power goes to their head.

[Would he be proud of how you're representing "his" part? (The Eternal One is not limited to a male)You tell me..........
www.youtube.com...

Ummm, Female Gods, I love it......


One other thing, try not ruining the movie for others, like was done the last time.... Remember?




posted on Oct, 16 2008 @ 08:24 PM
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Originally posted by All Seeing Eye
Yep, that's the first thing that happens, the power goes to their head.


It's not the pure power, it's the dysfunction, it's the fight against others that don't know these things.

You sound like you speak from jealousy and fear.


Ummm, Female Gods, I love it......


Female, male, both and neither. A-sexual, B-sexual, transexual, etc. All encompassing.


One other thing, try not ruining the movie for others, like was done the last time.... Remember?


No clue what you're talking about.



posted on Oct, 16 2008 @ 09:46 PM
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Originally posted by LastOutfiniteVoiceEternal

Originally posted by All Seeing Eye
Yep, that's the first thing that happens, the power goes to their head.


It's not the pure power, it's the dysfunction, it's the fight against others that don't know these things.

You sound like you speak from jealousy and fear.


Ummm, Female Gods, I love it......


Female, male, both and neither. A-sexual, B-sexual, transexual, etc. All encompassing.


One other thing, try not ruining the movie for others, like was done the last time.... Remember?


No clue what you're talking about.


Let me put it to you this way, first let me wipe the blood off my sword and put it back in my scarab.

I'm a old warrior, after a time one battle blends in with the next, till sometimes you just cant see where one ended and the next started. You just keep hacking away till one day someone grabs you and tells you the war is over, but you have a dream that it really isn't. You wake up in cold sweats reaching for your sword, only to find it turned into a plow overnight.

I just watched some crazy video about 2012, saw some things in it that looked like real bright headlights. Then I got hit by the train.

You don't get it, and you probably never will. When I grow up, I want to be just like my hero, the Duke. And thats the honest truth



posted on Oct, 16 2008 @ 11:27 PM
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I'm trying to make a connection here, I think you have to explain yourself just a little bit more. I noticed you adore speaking in very imaginative metaphors, the only problem is that when I come to ATS I become a literalist. Forgive my seriousness here, I'm in search for a truth that will put me at ease and I'm excited that I get closer and closer everyday. I really can see the light at the end of the tunnel and unless this tunnel collapses on me, crushing me and killing me, I'm going to see what nature lay outside waiting to be discovered.

I'm having some difficulty following the way that you express yourself, but I'm really trying to understand.

You said that I ruined the movie last time, I don't know what that means. I had also asked you a few questions earlier and you never answered them. You asked me a few questions and I answered them but I never received any acknowledgment so I don't know if you received my answers or not and in which way, if so.

You say you're an old warrior; I don't know what this means because I don't know you. Are you a vet? Are you saying you're a warrior of truth? Of intellect? Logic? It seems as if you were on guard by having your bloody sword out, but upon recognizing one of your own you pushed it back into your belt's side pocket.

In any case, whatever the future foretells, I look forward to comprehending you better and more extensively throughout our stay here.



posted on Oct, 19 2008 @ 08:54 PM
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Please forgive my metaphor's, it is difficult at times. I wish everyone could comprehend, but a sad fact is, the message I have is not for everyone.

The world you wish for is not in the best interest of humanity as a whole. You claim your here to bring us truth, but what you bring is a truth I care not for, and anyone who knew the truth about, well, your truth, would also be repulsed.

What knowledge do you attempt to bribe humanity with? Your not making connections? Why? Do you want us all to follow because you have a bag of truths? Where shall you take us with these truths? You do not allow us to "Connect" your dots.

I await your truths, then I shall reveal mine.

P.S. If you see I do not respond in a timely manner, please U2U me, I'm in and out all the time



posted on Oct, 19 2008 @ 09:24 PM
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Oh, I don't want anyone to follow me and I don't want anyone to simply believe me because of who I am or who I am not. I want everyone to question everyone, especially me, even I question myself.

What exactly are you asking for?

The true "Eternal One" that I have mentioned? It is existence. It is energy, that which can neither be created or destroyed, it's not a deity with a beard sitting on a cloud, that's so primitive. It's an eternal amount of space and time, and this conclusion is logically reached because energy is eternal. Space and time are one, and energy is eternal, energy IS space and time. There is no "absence" of space. Space is "full", eternally. Therefore since space and time are one and energy is eternal (neither created or destroyed), then the existence is an eternal expanse of space and time, it is NOT expanding, rather it is in perpetual motion and happening in an eternal amount of space and time (in all directions). I don't want people to follow me and they will not, because I will not allow them to, but the truth is that this is the truth, and either way we cut it it will eventually be known. Whether I'm the person people finally listen to or it becomes someone else that takes my work and runs with it, doesn't matter to me, as long as it gets out there for everyone to know, because it's not really MY work, it's all of ours, and it's our existence.

So, there's one sample of truth. The REAL eternal one. There is not time and space for two eternities because one eternity already encompasses EVERYthing that has been, is, and will be in both time and space.

Energy is everything, everything is everywhere. Sound like omnipresence? And it needs to stop being called "God". It's not only a man. It is also in form of woman because it is everything.

There is only that which exists and that which exists is physically interactive and observable. Jesus was a scientist and a logician of peace.

[edit on 19-10-2008 by LastOutfiniteVoiceEternal]



posted on Oct, 19 2008 @ 10:55 PM
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Well, I guess that just about covers it all, doesn't it? So, this universe is full, therefore there is no room for anything else. Your conclusion?


Nothing about having an alien God, I said the Eternal One is my "God", but it is not a deity, it is existence.
Sounds to me you do have a God.

Heres the problem. Scientists search for the boundaries that create our reality. Jesus was a scientist (by the way, he had different name), sure why not, his specialty was playing devils advocate.

Are you up for a game? Okay, lets pretend, as the "scientists" tell us, that we create our own reality. We do this with our minds. Lets suppose for a moment that we are an advanced race of being's, very advanced. In fact, so advanced that in our present form here on earth, we cant even comprehend their existence or form. Lets say that in their normal form they are very limited in what they can do in as far as, lets say, share, love, or for that matter, have a moments privacy, because in that form they are actually similar to the borg, without the body. There form of love is constant and is always the same from day to day. It becomes second nature to the point it is taken for granted, well, after all, it is.

Lets say, to escape that existence they create a, how shall I say, firmament, where they can separate from one another, and now have a physical body that is limited to only using 10% of their brains, so they cant see the truth. Why hide the truth? Because it would ruin the "Life Simulator" they created for themselves, ruin the movie.

Remember, this is only a game, fiction. Lets say, to make it more interesting we add certain things, like different races, different levels of the game board, other places to dream about, to take our minds away from the before time. This race intentionally created the whole universe inside of a test tube so they could watch the progress of the experiment, and make adjustments as necessary. It was as easy to create the universe for them, as it was for us to inject a chicken egg with DNA. Yes, the universe is jammed packed with matter, it makes for a good petri dish.

Now, this "Simulator" has rules, and are there for reasons. Lets suppose the universe was created for one of these, lets call them "Spirits". He is "Injected" into one of the bodies and all the other bodies are governed by AI. They are all programmed to act like what would be expected, so the spirit could not comprehend it. Or, they might inject two, three, or trillions of spirits into bodies, as they became available. It can be played out many different ways.

Or it might be a game of "Catch" where two spirits enter, trying to find each other in a sea of AI's. Its absolutely magnificent how this fictitious simulator can be manipulated.

Someone stated in another thread that this material world really wasn't real, and that the ethereal world, was. Well, it all depends on how you look at it, doesn't it? Or maybe this person was creating his own "Reality" believing what he himself created. So many possibilities. If that were the case, then there possibly could be trillions upon trillions of personalized truth's floating around in the universe. Little bubbles of truth floating everywhere. End of game.

Now, if I knew anything about the "Eternal Nirvana and Eternal "Heaven"", I would have to say, it may not be what its cranked up to be. If it was, why create earth, and then put spirited beings on it?


Now, in order for anyone to get the complete truth about there reality, or personal truth, it only really takes one thing.

You can not trick the truth, you can not steal it, you can not demand it. You must earn it, and in that respect, it is no different than respect or love. And if you never become truthful with yourself, you will never see the light!

And, that's the truth..............



posted on Oct, 19 2008 @ 11:41 PM
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Oh, one other thing, I just found this and wanted to share it. Check out the symbolism, wording, and our beloved ,3, fallen Angels, the Dixie Chicks. Especially notice the reflection in a "Snow Covered Mountain". Defiantly makes one wonder what they were thinking about when the lyrics were written.

Its really a sad song, but on the other hand, one of them was with "Creation"?


Enjoy....



[edit on 20-10-2008 by All Seeing Eye]



posted on Oct, 20 2008 @ 02:43 AM
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while honesty may be the best policy.... it'll often get ya punched in the face if not used with discretion :x



posted on Oct, 20 2008 @ 09:14 AM
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Originally posted by Resinveins
while honesty may be the best policy.... it'll often get ya punched in the face if not used with discretion :x
Very good point. All things in moderation, even wisdom too, I suppose. Your wisdom is noted, I wouldn't want to spoil anyones movie.


[edit on 20-10-2008 by All Seeing Eye]



posted on Oct, 20 2008 @ 01:21 PM
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Originally posted by All Seeing Eye
Well, I guess that just about covers it all, doesn't it? So, this universe is full, therefore there is no room for anything else. Your conclusion?


That the Eternal One is existence, this universe.


Sounds to me you do have a God.


Eh, I don't have a God or a deity. I know the Eternal One and it's what I cherish. I said God earlier so that I could relate.


Here's the problem. Scientists search for the boundaries that create our reality. Jesus was a scientist (by the way, he had different name), sure why not, his specialty was playing devils advocate.


Jesus was trying to explain to people everything that I'm now trying to explain to people. As for the "supernatural" stories of him healing people and coming back from the dead: never happened, it was added artificially so that the word of Christ could not only compete with other "false prophets" of the time that were attempting to impose their own idea of reality, but so that it would be the best. Jesus was telling people no more idols, no more deities, he was telling them to know the Eternal One, he was trying to teach them. He told them what it was and where it was. In the years past stories such as the creation story in Genesis and numerous other additions and subtractions from Biblical text have been mistranslated and/or lost.


Are you up for a game? Okay, lets pretend, as the "scientists" tell us, that we create our own reality.


But this isn't true. I don't want to play this game. My reality is created for me, I don't create anything. I have the illusion of being in control and creating, but I'm not.


It becomes second nature to the point it is taken for granted, well, after all, it is.


But this is all hypothetical, I am not fond of hypotheticals. The Eternal Being is already taken for granted. Who on this planet knows it? Love doesn't just become taken for granted, love is a way of life and a form of logic.


Let's say, to escape that existence they create a, how shall I say, firmament, where they can separate from one another, and now have a physical body that is limited to only using 10% of their brains, so they cant see the truth. Why hide the truth? Because it would ruin the "Life Simulator" they created for themselves, ruin the movie.


I understand what you're saying, but what are you talking about and where are you getting this from? Sounds like you're just making it all up so that you don't have to know the truth and so you can keep others from knowing it. How does anyone know how much of our brain we use? They don't. Who has ever used 100% of their brain to know what 10% is in comparison?


This race intentionally created the whole universe inside of a test tube so they could watch the progress of the experiment, and make adjustments as necessary.


The universe was never created and it is not a limited whole, it can not be observed from outside because there is no outside.


It was as easy to create the universe for them, as it was for us to inject a chicken egg with DNA.


You could definitely be a science fiction writer, but as for being a scientist, that one's out the window for now. You don't seem to understand the universe.


Or, they might inject two, three, or trillions of spirits into bodies, as they became available. It can be played out many different ways.


There's no such thing. Our bodies are vessel conduits of sensory reception and perception. We don't have individual spirits or souls, however, we do have individual sensory bodies. We all share One Eternal Being, or One Eternal Soul if you will.


Or it might be a game of "Catch" where two spirits enter, trying to find each other in a sea of AI's. Its absolutely magnificent how this fictitious simulator can be manipulated.


Well, that's why it's fiction. It's not real.


Someone stated in another thread that this material world really wasn't real, and that the ethereal world, was. Well, it all depends on how you look at it, doesn't it?


That's a cute little belief. No proof, logic and no substance whatsoever to back any of it up.


Little bubbles of truth floating everywhere. End of game.


You mean little bubbles of ignorance floating everywhere. There's one objective truth for all and there are subjective beliefs ignorant of objectivity for everyone.


Now, if I knew anything about the "Eternal Nirvana and Eternal "Heaven"", I would have to say, it may not be what its cranked up to be. If it was, why create earth, and then put spirited beings on it?


So that we could understand ourselves and so that we answer that question that you just posed.


Now, in order for anyone to get the complete truth about their reality, or personal truth, it only really takes one thing.


Scientific observance, gathered data and knowledge, replicable experiments yielding the same data time after time, logic, no doubt and no fear.


You can not trick the truth, you can not steal it, you can not demand it.


Sure, you can demand the truth, you can even steal it from someone else, but no, you can not trick the truth, you're right there.


You must earn it, and in that respect, it is no different than respect or love. And if you never become truthful with yourself, you will never see the light!


Not really. You must not really do anything to have truth. What happens, happens, how the truth is revealed to you is not dictated by what YOU illogically think. The truth comes in many different forms, only one of those is light. There is also a truth of dark. So you can become truthful with yourself and see the dark.


And, that's the truth.


Sure. Parts of it. I added the rest, but I don't think you'll ever understand it. It's not for everyone.

[edit on 20-10-2008 by LastOutfiniteVoiceEternal]



posted on Oct, 20 2008 @ 01:22 PM
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Originally posted by All Seeing Eye
Very good point. All things in moderation, even wisdom too, I suppose. Your wisdom is noted, I wouldn't want to spoil anyones movie.


Everything in moderation you say? I guess that means that you want us to moderate in excess, now we're being a bit hypocritical, illogical and contradicting again, aren't we?



posted on Oct, 20 2008 @ 08:01 PM
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You could definitely be a science fiction writer
Humbly, thank you.


Jesus was trying to explain to people everything that I'm now trying to explain to people
Are you trying to tell me you had a little quarter back huddle with JC? He told you all of this? I heard JC was really part of a secret society. I think I would rather read what Joshua had to say.


But this isn't true. I don't want to play this game. My reality is created for me
I know it is, it was you who tried to say we were all Gods and Goddess's, Kings and Queens. Well, maybe part of that is true, if you believe in the mindset that created the Constitution of the United States.


But this is all hypothetical, I am not fond of hypotheticals. The Eternal Being is already taken for granted. Who on this planet knows it? Love doesn't just become taken for granted, love is a way of life and a form of logic.
Sadly, you are correct.

You want to know where it all comes from?

There's no such thing. Our bodies are vessel conduits of sensory reception and perception. We don't have individual spirits or souls, however, we do have individual sensory bodies. We all share One Eternal Being, or One Eternal Soul if you will.


It comes from a place you don't believe exists. And as long as you don't believe it exists, it wont believe you exist. I used to think of the "Eternal Being" you mention, but I have modified that position.

I just have one question for you, just one. This is only a point of curiosity, but where will you go when you die? Where will your non spirit/ soul, go?

Be safe
ASE



posted on Oct, 20 2008 @ 08:27 PM
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Originally posted by All Seeing Eye
Humbly, thank you.


You're very welcome. I really meant it. It was a nice piece of work and imagination, don't let me stubborn logic and science dissuade your ability to dream.


Are you trying to tell me you had a little quarter back huddle with JC? He told you all of this? I heard JC was really part of a secret society. I think I would rather read what Joshua had to say.


No,
but it's the only logical conclusion. If Jesus wasn't trying to explain this, then he accidentally did without knowing it, either way he still did.


I know it is, it was you who tried to say we were all Gods and Goddess's, Kings and Queens. Well, maybe part of that is true, if you believe in the mindset that created the Constitution of the United States.


When I said we were all Gods and Goddesses I meant that we are all sentient Beings that should respect each other as we do with the worship of God, of course this may not ever happen, but it's the blueprints for the ideal utopia. A mutual respect for one another and an easing and uncomplicated compromise when and where necessary.

The constitution of the U.S. Ew, disgusting, ignorant, hypocrisy and contradiction, power hungry, war driven mess of words, manipulations and lies.


Sadly, you are correct.

You want to know where it all comes from?


Where what all comes from? I know the general answer, but were you being specific on something? If so, could you share?


It comes from a place you don't believe exists. And as long as you don't believe it exists, it wont believe you exist. I used to think of the "Eternal Being" you mention, but I have modified that position.


I don't have beliefs. I do structure logical paradigms around the idea of love and truth and what those realities would be like, as for believing in them? I can't. I can share what they would be like if I had material knowledge and material proof of their existence, but beyond that I can not say anything for certain exists, I can not dupe anyone, I can only present the logic of the word to then be tested and questioned for veridicality and flawlessness by others. If and when I reach that state, I will write it all down and share everything. I haven't even started on any form of government yet though, whether there would be one or not.


I just have one question for you, just one. This is only a point of curiosity, but where will you go when you die? Where will your non spirit/ soul, go?

Be safe
ASE


My material body will be recycled (indestructible energy) in to an emporium of energetic states and uses, but I will always be the Eternal Being (indestructible energy) and I always have been. (we all have)

We are not universally and existentially sane nor do we understand our true unity and commonality until we can decipher between the singular objective immeasurability of the material Eternal One and the multiple Eternal Ones of immaterial subjective faiths.

[edit on 20-10-2008 by LastOutfiniteVoiceEternal]



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