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posted on Oct, 8 2008 @ 04:58 PM
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We are all currently judgmental.

Every choice that we make is made through a judgment of at least 2 things or the idea of two concepts or the concept of two ideas. We must discern what is best for us, this discernment is a judgment and it is a contrast between the two things in a hopeful equate of a choice for the better. I just have to accept that I am only knowing of truth and can only speak and know of that which can be known. I can not assume or expect, I do not wish to persuade or convert through deceptions and invisibilities, I speak only the truth because I have become the truth. I speak with, through, of and as the Eternal One and the converse is also applicable. I represent the religion of the universe, I bring to you the knowledge of all advanced and evolved extra-terrestrial sentient creatures. At me you may laugh, you may cry, but I will live my life and I will leave behind the mostly quiet legacy of David Goodpasture that will forever seal the knowledge of manifesting Heaven on Earth... and in Heaven there is no free will, there is a choice made after the final judgement to live thoughtlessly through love through not choosing the doubtful, deceptive and over-complicated dysfunction of hell. It's either one or the other, it can not be both at the same time for a planet nor for a person. To have any aspect of negativity in one's life is not a conviction to Eternal Nirvana and Eternal "Heaven". Only when socialism is a thoughtless bliss will we be living Heaven on Earth. After the final judgment between choosing heaven and hell is made by every individual, it is then that the eternal fate of the planet is sealed forever into a reality of destruction, or one of eternal life, euphoria, comfort and calm.

I'm used to it by now and numb to it so please save me any petty attempts at ridicule, I am rock solid in my knowledge, personal attacks will not sway me in the least, only sound logic and reason will and I will persevere until the last beat of my heart pumps blood through my life filled body.

Mods: Offfffff course, since it's your job, feel free to move this if you think it belongs somewhere else, I will not complain at all.

[edit on 8-10-2008 by LastOutfiniteVoiceEternal]




posted on Oct, 8 2008 @ 06:28 PM
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I would like to share this with you, tell me how it rings out with your view of truth and honesty? Then lets talk.......


"a man is placed upon the steps, a baby cries
and high above the church bells start to ring
and as the heaviness the body
oh the heaviness settles in
somewhere you can hear a mother sing

then it`s one foot then the other
as you step out onto the road
how much weight? how much weight?
then it`s how long? and how far?
and how many times before it`s too late?

calling all angels
calling all angels
walk me through this one
don`t leave me alone
calling all angels
calling all angels
we`re cryin` and we`re hurtin`
and we`re not sure why...

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[edit on 8/10/2008 by Mirthful Me]



posted on Oct, 8 2008 @ 06:35 PM
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oh hell... I have known this for quite some time and LOVE having the opportunity to call people out who say things such as "I do not judge" or "quit being so judgmental" (which the latter is extremely hilarious considering that the very statement "quit being so judgmental" is a statement made based on the judging that someone else is judgmental
) The only people who are not judgmental are those whose life span has expired.



posted on Oct, 8 2008 @ 07:35 PM
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Originally posted by justamomma
oh hell... I have known this for quite some time and LOVE having the opportunity to call people out who say things such as "I do not judge" or "quit being so judgmental" (which the latter is extremely hilarious considering that the very statement "quit being so judgmental" is a statement made based on the judging that someone else is judgmental
) The only people who are not judgmental are those whose life span has expired.


Wow, did I just get my glasses cleaned LOL LOL LOL Yep, honesty is the best policy.



posted on Oct, 8 2008 @ 07:56 PM
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I represent the religion of the universe, I bring to you the knowledge of all advanced and evolved extra-terrestrial sentient creatures.


Okay, I can believe your sincere in your belief. You have a Alien god, I have a Alien God. You think maybe their might be some way in bringing them together, or is your mind closed to new ideas.



posted on Oct, 8 2008 @ 08:05 PM
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Based on your signature, my guess would have to be that your glasses were already clean
. Glad to know there is another like minded soul who can see the truth and hasn't given up quite yet.



posted on Oct, 9 2008 @ 10:38 AM
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No, I do not have an alien God. You have misunderstood what I've said.

I said I represent the religion of the universe, that which is the knowledge of all advanced and evolved sentient creatures, such as yourself as well. Nothing about having an alien God, I said the Eternal One is my "God", but it is not a deity, it is existence.

[edit on 9-10-2008 by LastOutfiniteVoiceEternal]



posted on Oct, 9 2008 @ 10:42 AM
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Originally posted by justamomma
The only people who are not judgmental are those whose life span has expired.


You can be non judgmental after the final judgment is made. When a life of bliss is chosen then the Being or Happening takes over and a thoughtless love ensues.

It is possible to be non judgmental, but not when we're all on a different page, and right now we're all on a different page searching for the same one.



posted on Oct, 9 2008 @ 01:41 PM
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Originally posted by LastOutfiniteVoiceEternal

Originally posted by justamomma
The only people who are not judgmental are those whose life span has expired.


When a life of bliss is chosen then the Being or Happening takes over and a thoughtless love ensues.

It is possible to be non judgmental, but not when we're all on a different page, and right now we're all on a different page searching for the same one.


For some strange reason I'm getting the feeling that isn't what God had in mind for mankind. He gives us choice, then takes it back? Indian Giver LOL LOL
(No offense is intended against the native Americans who are closer to God than even I)

I said I represent the religion of the universe, that which is the knowledge of all advanced and evolved sentient creatures, such as yourself as well. Nothing about having an alien God, I said the Eternal One is my "God", but it is not a deity, it is existence.
I had a couple of Jehovah Witnesses come to the door the other day, and I will tell you as I told them. "I believe two things in life: 1. I believe in God Almighty, and 2. I believe in Angels, all the rest is debatable".

Now, for your viewing entertainment I give you your religion: Care to debate it?













[edit on 9-10-2008 by All Seeing Eye]

[edit on 9-10-2008 by All Seeing Eye]



posted on Oct, 13 2008 @ 07:54 PM
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What I've presented you is logical, I can't argue with you simply stating that it wouldn't make sense for God to do it, because whatever you believe God would or wouldn't do, it really doesn't matter to way that things are.

As for the videos and "my religion", you totally lost me there. I don't have a religion, unless you consider scientific atheism a religion and I don't have faith.



posted on Oct, 13 2008 @ 10:35 PM
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"You can be non judgmental after the final judgment is made. When a life of bliss is chosen then the Being or Happening takes over and a thoughtless love ensues.
It is possible to be non judgmental, but not when we're all on a different page, and right now we're all on a different page searching for the same one."

I have already found the "ONE" and thank you very much.


I represent the religion of the universe, I bring to you the knowledge of all advanced and evolved extra-terrestrial sentient creatures
So you don't have a religion? Tell me all about these "evolved extra-terrestrial sentient creatures".

Oh, and thank "Who ever", we are not on the same mindless love page you are. You looking for volunteers to go live at your Moony, Heavens Gate, compound? What on earth are you trying to sell me and everyone else. Where is your truth? Show me your "truth" and I will look at it. Smoke and mirrors are hard to see threw, is that by design, or intentional.

No, I don't have a religion, I don't want one either. You insult the spirit of love by imposing it on everyone. Its not love when you do that, its enslavement!!! you cant force people or anything else to "Love", it must be earned!

Okay, now whats your interpretation of love.



posted on Oct, 13 2008 @ 11:21 PM
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I speak only the truth because I have become the truth. I speak with, through, of and as the Eternal One
I know who your eternal one is, and he hasn't changed his tactics, its getting old. All he has for us is contempt, and a great deal of disrespect, and we haven't even done one thing against him. You gotta love that!



posted on Oct, 14 2008 @ 11:04 AM
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No, you don't know the Eternal One obviously by the way that you keep calling it a "him". I must assume that you didn't even read the O.P.

I'd advise that you read the O.P. so that you can understand what the "Eternal One" is.

It's not a deity and it's not the definition of any God in any Bible.



posted on Oct, 14 2008 @ 11:18 AM
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Originally posted by All Seeing Eye
I have already found the "ONE" and thank you very much.


You're welcome? Well, if you truly have then I'm glad. I'd love for you to share with me what it is so that I can question it.


So you don't have a religion? Tell me all about these "evolved extra-terrestrial sentient creatures".


Correct. No religion.

It's a hypothetical. Any Sentient Creature living on any planet in the universe with sensory perception and the intelligence and logic of a Human would know that the Eternal One is a logical truth for all. Just like 2 plus 2 is 4.


Oh, and thank "Who ever", we are not on the same mindless love page you are. You looking for volunteers to go live at your Moony, Heavens Gate, compound?


Nope. No volunteers, no money, no religion, no cult, no group, nothing. Just absolute truth, simply absolute logically undeniable truth.


What on earth are you trying to sell me and everyone else. Where is your truth? Show me your "truth" and I will look at it. Smoke and mirrors are hard to see threw, is that by design, or intentional.


Selling you nothing, the only money you pay for this is for the internet to get on ATS, and I don't want any of your money either. Truth is free.

My/The truth is everywhere. It is everything. The Eternal One is an immeasurable amount of time and space. Energy is eternal, it can neither be created or destroyed, a thing that is eternal has no beginning and no end, time ans space are one and energy is time and space therefore time and space have no beginning and no end. The Eternal One is the essence of existence, is the universe: energy, all of it, every form.


No, I don't have a religion, I don't want one either. You insult the spirit of love by imposing it on everyone.


Do you speak to or understand the spirit of love? Tell me about that. I'd like to know how it feels insulted.

The spirit of love tells me to be honest so that's all that I can do. If you call imposing the truth an insult to the spirit of love then I'd like to know just what spirit you're talking to, because it's certainly not love. Love is truth and can not be anything else.


Its not love when you do that, its enslavement!!! you cant force people or anything else to "Love", it must be earned!


Love is enslaved to truth and truth is enslaved to love.


Okay, now whats your interpretation of love.


Love is truth, kindness, trustworthy, forgiveness, caring, giving, fun, humor, respectful of others, it also stands strong in itself against acts of the contrary.

None of this is only mine, it's for everyone and it's always existed.

[edit on 14-10-2008 by LastOutfiniteVoiceEternal]



posted on Oct, 14 2008 @ 11:28 AM
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Well, ironically, the choice to be "non judgemental" is actually a judgemental decision itself. Typically, this is the best judgement call to make if one realizes that every time we judge another person (which I am HIGHLY guilty of) we are in essence judging ourselves. However, being non judgemental would require (in this lifetime anyway) an almost complete (maybe even COMPLETE) removal of onesself from society. The society we have grown accustomed to is set up for the very purpose of making judgements.. it is nothing but a life a condemning onesself and THE MAJORITY of the time, we are not even aware HOW judgemental we are really being. We even point blank judge ourselves every time we feel that we don't compare to the "standards" that are being set by society.

I often think the best thing to be done is to abolish modern society and start anew, but I think I could count on one hand the number of people who aren't attached to the comforts to the point that would willingly be able to do this. A handful compared to millions won't even scratch the surface of our problems



posted on Oct, 14 2008 @ 11:48 AM
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Originally posted by justamomma
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Well, ironically, the choice to be "non judgemental" is actually a judgemental decision itself.


Yes, YEs. Exactly. I agree with most everything else you said. The FINAL judgement. So once you make that final judgement, that final decision, and begin living your life full of love and truth you no longer have to think about anything. Truth comes naturally, you don't have to ponder lying or a bad story, because your goal is always truth, the whole truth of any matter. Society can NOT go on any other way and it can not be built to last on any other foundation. So the truth has to come out now about all things, and slowly it is and I see it happening everywhere, I'm also a part of it and I encourage others to become a part of it... but it's always their choice. I just don't see how someone could choose a lie over the truth, but I also see that happening everywhere, too. Look at Blossom Goodchild for one. People pay more attention to that crap than stuff that really matters and makes sense.



posted on Oct, 14 2008 @ 02:14 PM
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Only when socialism is a thoughtless bliss will we be living Heaven on Earth
Okay, let me work thew this.

Isn't socialism, one of the Ism's?
I WANT TO WORK< AND I DON'T WANT ROYALTY STANDING ON MY SHOULDERS! Please forgive me.

Heaven on earth? Let me try to explain my position, k? I just don't think earth was created to replicate heaven. We are here for a reason, and it is not to play god, get my drift? Even if God Almighty decided to enter the flesh, HE WOULD NOT SIT ON A MOUNTAIN in a hidden KINGDOM! You might be confusing God with a impostor or someone who just couldn't get it.

"Alien Races"? This is not possible because everything in this creation, is how shall I say, Natural? Now, you want to tell me all about the reality of the "Serpent", and the first born who never grew up, and never left the garden, go right ahead, I'm all ears.

Your not a God, your not a Angel!! Mindless love is reserved for them. You are a human being, capable of certain things, love being one of them. And if your really, really, really lucky in life, you will be blessed by, being loved. It is the most precious gift this life can offer, and for you to just hand it out like candy at the bank or bribes like a politician discredits and degrades it. It is far more precious than all the gold in the word.

You have to experience a bad day in order to appreciate the good. And if you never experience sadness, rejection, you will never, ever, appreciate love.

I hope you can understand my position, or I'm gonna tell Santa Clause on ya!



posted on Oct, 14 2008 @ 02:54 PM
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Originally posted by All Seeing Eye
Heaven on earth? Let me try to explain my position, k? I just don't think earth was created to replicate heaven.


Then where is Heaven and where do you think Heaven belongs?


We are here for a reason, and it is not to play God, get my drift?


No, not at all. We're all here to be Gods and Goddesses and Kings and Queens among and amongst one another. You are playing God, I hope you're doing "him" a good part in this play. Would he be proud of how you're representing "his" part? (The Eternal One is not limited to a male)


Even if God Almighty decided to enter the flesh, HE WOULD NOT SIT ON A MOUNTAIN in a hidden KINGDOM!


God has always been the flesh. An omnipresent God is within the flesh of all creatures of flesh.


You might be confusing God with an impostor or someone who just couldn't get it.


Nope. You are. As I said, I have spelled out the Eternal one logically and symbolically for you. It's you who isn't getting it.


"Alien Races"?


Who are you quoting? Or are you just ranting? I never said anything about "alien races". There's a big difference between "extra-terrestrial", "sentient creatures with sensory perception and logic and intellect like that of Humans" and "alien races". In fact, that was my hypothetical point: We're all an intellectual, sentient, logical race of the Eternal One.


This is not possible because everything in this creation, is how shall I say, Natural? Now, if you want to tell me all about the reality of the "Serpent", and the first born who never grew up, and never left the garden, go right ahead, I'm all ears.


Yes, all things are natural, even I and what I am doing. However, there is a difference between the subjective conviction in the Eternal One and the actual physical Manifestation of what the Eternal One is; energy, existence, everything.

As for the rest of that stuff, you'd have to teach me about that. I know nothing of it and I don't like metaphorical stories, the only way for someone to truly understand something is for them to truly understand it in its purest form as what it really is.


Your not a God, your not a Angel!!


Yes, I am. It might shock you to know that are, too?


Mindless love is reserved for them.


Then why am I not only capable of knowing this, but also I can do it? If you knew the secrets of how to exercise thoughtless love would you be afraid to become it? I do and I'm not afraid, and I'm not afraid to share it either, and everytime I do it evolves and becomes clearer and clearer and more and more logical until the day that it will be perfected and truth will be imposed upon the world in the entirety of its foundation.


You are a human being, capable of certain things, love being one of them. And if you're really, really, really lucky in life, you will be blessed by, being loved.


You call it luck? Okay, I can deal with that, but it reveals a lot of what you think about love. I bless people with love through the form of truth every day, and every day it gets easier and easier. I love the truth and the truth loves me. If a female companion should squeeze her way into the picture then that's fine by me, but even if she doesn't, it's still fine by me because I will live a life of love and truth regardless.


It is the most precious gift this life can offer, and for you to just hand it out like candy at the bank or bribes like a politician discredits and degrades it. It is far more precious than all the gold in the word.


Bribes like a politician? How can you really in any way compare what I'm doing to the deceitful tactics of a politician? I must be the most trustworthy and honest politician to ever live on this planet. Of course I would hand it out like candy if I knew that once it was consumed it stayed in the genes for eternity and everyone could have a peaceful future, one in which we are able to see how far we can push our technological potential instead of one in which how far we push our technological potential kills us because we never found the meaning of love.


You have to experience a bad day in order to appreciate the good. And if you never experience sadness, rejection, you will never, ever, appreciate love.


Can you see a sad tree to appreciate a happy tree? Can you see a sad lake to appreciate a happy lake? Can you see a sad planet to appreciate a happy planet?

When I was born I appreciated the good and the beauty of nature before anyone ever broke my heart. I appreciated love before I learned what this world thought it was, and it was only then that I knew that they didn't know what it was. You think that you must create bad to appreciate good and you end up subconsciously sabotaging a perfectly good thing for no reason other than an illogical self originating conviction because you don't trust in love's eternal future.


I hope you can understand my position, or I'm gonna tell Santa Clause on ya!


Fine. The Easter Bunny is my body Gaurd, he stays mostly by the chimney and I feed him catnip. Tell Santa to bring it on. I've got a killer rabid bunny more than capable of taking on a couple flying reindeer and skilled red haired slave dwarfs with bells on their shoes.

[edit on 14-10-2008 by LastOutfiniteVoiceEternal]



posted on Oct, 14 2008 @ 03:13 PM
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Great replies from all in this thread. Did you ever wounder why energy can not be created or destroyed?
Why is this so and what keeps it that way.
I also believe in the logic of things so it would seem that our reality is governed by just the energy rule. So the one who controles the energy would be "god".
K.



posted on Oct, 14 2008 @ 03:32 PM
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Originally posted by kitos
Great replies from all in this thread. Did you ever wounder why energy can not be created or destroyed?
Why is this so and what keeps it that way.


Yeah. Because space is "full". There's no place for energy to go. For example: when you burn a piece of paper there is a chemical reaction that takes place, you see the fire and the smoke. Some of the energy state that was that paper is released and transmutated into the form of smoke, some is burnt down into ashes. It can only morph from form to form because there is no where else for it go and nothing else for it to do. It can't leave existence because existence has no outside, there's no escape. Eternity is a prison with no walls. You can't escape it, but you're also not being held inside anything, you're only being held captive OF eternity. As there is no outside, there also is no inside, there is only an immeasurable ofness of things.


I also believe in the logic of things so it would seem that our reality is governed by just the energy rule. So the one who controls the energy would be "god".
K.


That's sort of true, but the energy is also controlling whomever believes that they are controlling it. Can't make people believe that you control energy forever because eventually the truth will come, we're all in control of energy and energy is in control of all of us, and we are energy happening.



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