Thank you OP for the thread. I had absolutely no idea about any of this. THIS IS THE VALUE OF ATS AND OTHER ALTERNATIVE NEWS SITES/FORUMS! The PTB clearly don't want any of us knowing about this so we must make it our business to know.

Originally posted by serpentine
Taksin Shinawatra (the thai ex owner of Manchester City FC) is supposed to be facing charges here on massive human rights abuses and has gone freely to the UK where it seems he has been welcomed with open arms.

Regarding this, please be assured that no-one here even knows who Taksin Shinawatra is, let alone the crimes he has committed. We clearly aren't 'meant' to know otherwise many more of us would be calling for his deportation. I do not believe in harbouring criminals and if it was up to me, this disgusting coward would be on the next plane back to Thailand.

This is disgusting... i cant believe they would have the nerve to do this and call it 'crowd control'.

Im appauled.

Originally posted by Cythraul
Thank you OP for the thread. I had absolutely no idea about any of this. THIS IS THE VALUE OF ATS AND OTHER ALTERNATIVE NEWS SITES/FORUMS! The PTB clearly don't want any of us knowing about this so we must make it our business to know.

Originally posted by serpentine
Taksin Shinawatra (the thai ex owner of Manchester City FC) is supposed to be facing charges here on massive human rights abuses and has gone freely to the UK where it seems he has been welcomed with open arms.

Regarding this, please be assured that no-one here even knows who Taksin Shinawatra is, let alone the crimes he has committed. We clearly aren't 'meant' to know otherwise many more of us would be calling for his deportation. I do not believe in harbouring criminals and if it was up to me, this disgusting coward would be on the next plane back to Thailand.

Ive seen that man on TV countless times during the soccer matches, im not surprised to hear hes not all that clean. I hope he gets sent back and gets his punishment.

Originally posted by Diplomat
I am starting to hate the human race and this planet.

We absolutely suck at life.

Too right, i think they probably plan to make us see the worst of what humans can be. Sickening, what people in power would do.

I could not look beyond the first page - just disgusting and very distressing. I think it's really important you brought this to peoples attention

Not the first time something like this has happend.

Face it...its a messed up world. All is not green grass and peachy roses.

Its reality. REAL reality.

Cheers!!!!

"Force always attracts men of low morality. " -Einstein

Sorry guys. Something smells fishy about this. That frag grenade does not cause wound of that kind. Your leg does not blow off unless you're standing ontop of the grenade itself. I cannot say for sure what took off the protester's legs. Might not even be anything concussive.

Something's not right there. How did the photographer manage to take that picture? Might be a setup? Thailand's govt is besieged both from inside and out.

That's an old army grenade that has not been kept under the right conditions for a long time. Its rusting. If its rusted, the army would simply recycle it. That grenade might have been bought at the border. Thai Police aren't even issued with frag grenades.

Its not fair to simply say that the govt is at fault and the protesters are innocent. Politics there is really dirty. That cop may simply be paid-off to do such by a splinter group within the govt hoping to bring the current govt down. Or maybe PAD. Or whomever.

I still couldn't figure the real reason why the protesters are protesting. FYI, the chairman of the PAD is responsible for many crimes himself. Ask a thai. The PAD's backers are the wealthy and the elite wanting a change in the govt constitution where currently the poor states hold 50% of the seats and 50% goes to the other wealthier states..

The PAD backers simply want it reverted back to the old constitution where the poor had only 30% and the wealthy 70% for their reasoning is that the poor have no idea how the state should run. All they care is about their next meal. its a common mentality of the rich in thai. Not all but plenty.

The current govt was agreed upon by the PAD after Samak steps down. Yet they still protest, fed propaganda by the PAD themselves.

"Two things are infinite: the universe and human stupidity; and I'm not sure about the the universe." -Einstein

PAD's simply feeing on the gullibility of its followers. Heck, so does the govt.

Thaksin, has many crimes and charges pressed against him yada, yada, yada, yada, yet how many people knew of the good he has done? Yes, he bribes alot and stuff but its a cultural thingy. Being in the govt, if you don't pay, you don't play.

Before Thaksin, there was no such thing as a $1 medical care. 5 Bhat. Its a small sum that the poor could afford. This was many years before he even became the prime minister. He gave money for food, water, medicine, shelter and education. Brought the country through the bird flu period. Even ate KFC and declared 'it's safe!'.

For all the bribery he's done and whatever crimes and charges levelled at him, he's done much more good. That's why the poor adore him. Because he gave many a chance to rise out of poverty. The wealthy are weary of him because he has the backing of the masses. Thaksin is no angel tho.

Don't buy in to the media anymore about thailand this or thailand that, Unless we are there to see for ourselves both side of the story, lest we get swept off our feet with all the media trash.



This writer has expressed many opinions that are his own and others who are living in Thailand. Have some people he know there. His uncle goes there often as well.

Its a really beautiful country that's breath taking but I am really sad to see the country and its people descend into chaos because of the greed and ulterior motives of the ruling classes.

[edit on 9-10-2008 by Prometheus Ascendent]

Well there is one photo there of one of the policemen trying to help an injured protestor.

Perhaps the photographer was just lucky to not get noticed taking pictures.

Quite a mess regardless.

Cheers!!!!

My god. How can words even describe such suffering and hate.

I hope those of you that complain about police brutality here in the US everytime someone gets tazered will count your blessings.

Originally posted by rapinbatsisaltherage
If this can happen somewhere else why not here? You think America is really above it all?
[edit on 8-10-2008 by rapinbatsisaltherage]

Yes, because we have laws which keep us in check. I can't see police in this country ever doing this, due to fear of prosecution and fear of what happens to policemen in prisons. Not necessarily because they don't WANT to, but because they are afraid of what would happen to them.

Dont you people get it???? WHen there's a revolution, the people that replace the old dictators, also themselves become corrupt over time and eventually another revolution is needed, then they become corrupt.

Its a never ending cycle!!!!!!!!! Divine intervention will be the only way, when 1 day all people are enlightened and walk with God, then there will be no corruptions and we will have a utopia.