we have the republic of singapore at 3 bases in the us and the 3rd arriving this month and no one is remotely interested. it has been my experience ats'ers would be on this like stink on S _ _ T or white on rice.

who cares! let's open up our airspace for China, Russian and Iran! who cares!!!!!!!!!!!

does this not concern anyone on ats? is this thread being burried......prolly.

Well, I care! I think the whole "globalization" thing has gotten way out of hand! Our leaders are doing some crazy things these days. I kind of think we owe LOTS of money to more countries than just China, and we have no choice now.

It's a non-event. Many countries fly out of US bases in the US doing training. The main Dutch F-16 pilot training center is Luke AFB Arizona. They have a couple of dozen F-16s that are owned by the Dutch flying out of there, and their pilots flying in US aircraft. Many of them aren't even able to buy beer, but they are certified F-16 pilots. It's common for other militaries to train with the US, even to operate out of US bases.

You talk about "all these troop movements in October", well you must not have read your article very well. Your own article says that the first F-15SG will arrive in Mountain Home in April of 2009. So they won't even be coming until next year.

Originally posted by Zaphod58
The main Dutch F-16 pilot training center is Luke AFB Arizona.

The Germans have been doing flying training at Luke for freakin' years, too! I think that they were learning to fly the F-86 out there in the late 1950's, early 1960's.

I agree with you; this is a non-event.

Every time Luke AFB came through for an exercise, there were always several F-16s that were painted like the USAF birds, but they had Dutch flags painted on the intake, or somewhere on the fuselage. About half of them were Dutch.

India recently brough SU-30MKIs to Nellis AFB for Red Flag to train. A lot of militaries like to come to Red Flag, because pilots say that after Red Flag, combat is easy.

Red Flag has had the Brits, Germans, Dutch, Italians, Japanese, Indians all there to train.

Consider the size of the countries involved.

Consider the speed of an F-16 with the throttle set at "I love this job".

An F-16 could cross all of the airspace of Holland in about 10 minutes. Singapore, 2 minutes.

Wide open skies, no political impact if you fly 10 yards too far. Makes perfect sense.

The US sells advanced military hardware to Saudi Arabia.

A few friendly singaporeans on US soil is hardly of concern compared to the broader threats!

Not sure what the big deal is. Im currently at a base that has many foreign military stationed here. And been this way for looooooooong time. As is this way at other bases too. We have a bunch of Aussies and Germans here and some other countries

My previous base has foreigners there all year long (for Red Flag and other exercises).

I guess people who are not familiar with the military world would not understand, but really, I dont believe this is a real issue


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I'm a former Marine, 12 years. I know about the NWO and their plans to bring our country into the North American Union. Its already signed and a done deal. NAFTA thanks to the role of Clinton to get this one the road. He was also tasked with the invasion of Bosnia to Kosovo based on fabricated lies. I lived in Kosovo for 5 years and there were no mass graves. We lied........

Our country is set up for martial law and every single president has been used willingly to set us up for a dictatorship. It has been planned in phases right under our noses. I have the evidence that is irrefutable and a timeline going back further than you want to know. There is a very evil plan to use foreign military, Blackwater and as a civilian security force the 'guardian Angels" red berets to take over. They are going to kill millions when the once again orchestrate the next depression as they did in 1929. The military coup planned between 1933 to 1934 failed, as did the one planned in 1960 to 1963, thanks to JFK and the third one in 1972 because the planning group with Nixon on board, decided it wasn't such a good idea assassinating Agnew on Sept 1972 at the republican convention and establishing Martial law...why? Americans had too many weapons. So, the Trilateral Commission was formed in 1973 thanks to the workmanship of Zeg. Brzezinski [advisor to Obama today], set up the plans for the dictatorship that is planned now. In the 1990's there was a questionaire given out to our troops asking questions of which one series asked "would you fire on American citizens".....it was for the most part a no....unless. So, this problem was looked at through orchested shootings in schools, gun control and bringing in foreign troops to handle this......


True story and the ending is coming soon.