Mars Image: Multiple Moving Objects...UPHILL , page 1

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Topic started on 8-10-2008 @ 08:45 AM by super70

I could be wrong here, but this clearly seems to be multiple objects traveling...UPHILL.
Hopefully a few of the resident ATS experts will chime in on this find.

All image location information listed below screen capture.

Original Mars HiRise image:
PSP_009393_1890_RED.NOMAP.JP2

Image coordinates:
X: 5057
Y: 36400

[edit on 8-10-2008 by super70]

reply posted on 8-10-2008 @ 08:59 AM by azureskys

There are certainly 2 objects that seem to have moved, leaving track or trail behind them.
Good find !

reply posted on 8-10-2008 @ 09:24 AM by Sator

Good find, Really seems like two objects moving uphill...

I can't wait to see MikeSingh's take on this.

Peace

reply posted on 8-10-2008 @ 09:36 AM by ImShrike

yeah i think MikeSingh' opinion is really precious, but i want read the analisys of the best of the bests here....

INTERNOOOOOSSSS where are you?!?!? C'mon.....

reply posted on 8-10-2008 @ 09:41 AM by testrat

Stupid question. How do you know that they didn't roll down hill? Couldn't something snowballing down a hill create the same patterns?

reply posted on 8-10-2008 @ 09:51 AM by Demos

How do you know it's uphill ? Pictures are taken from above so it's hard to tell.

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reply posted on 8-10-2008 @ 09:58 AM by super70

It is certainly uphill, here is a larger image of the area in question.

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reply posted on 8-10-2008 @ 10:10 AM by ziggystar60

I am not so sure about the two "objects". The dark spots could be small craters/holes left in the ground after a couple of rocks or boulders which rolled downhill.

Anyway, this is the direct link to the full image:
hirise-pds.lpl.arizona.edu...

reply posted on 8-10-2008 @ 10:22 AM by nablator

With insane winds speeds during dust storms rocks may roll uphill. But there wouldn't be any tracks I guess. So... the general direction is probably downward.

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reply posted on 8-10-2008 @ 03:41 PM by super70

Originally posted by testrat
Stupid question. How do you know that they didn't roll down hill? Couldn't something snowballing down a hill create the same patterns?

Not a stupid question at all. We've seen many objects, most likely rocks, that have rolled down the sides of large "dunes" on mars. This location is UPHILL though, I posted a photo of the area in question.

reply posted on 8-10-2008 @ 03:58 PM by merka

reply to post by super70

But how can you be sure its uphill? There's nothing at the site indicating that the stones rolled uphill: what is clearly hills are next to the "rolling stones" and they obviously didnt went up them. The area indicated may just as well be sloping downwards in the direction the stones go.

reply posted on 8-10-2008 @ 04:48 PM by Nohup

I'm not sure I get the point here. For the sake of argument, let's say that what we're seeing here not just an illusion caused by odd shadowing or a stray dust devil trail or something, what's it supposed to imply?

Is it that somebody (or something) moved these rocks uphill for some reason? They didn't apparently leave any tracks. And why would they move them? Are they better in this position than in their previous position?

Or is the point that Mars is just such a freaky, unusual place that the ordinary laws of physics don't apply? Because most people will agree that's not the case. It's far away, but most people would agree that rocks still roll downhill there.

I'm not sure what the implication is supposed to be here.

reply posted on 8-10-2008 @ 05:33 PM by Phage

You're looking in the wrong place. The rocks that rolled downhill to make the tracks are outside of your frame. Sorry the image is so bad, don't have my proper tools available.

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reply posted on 8-10-2008 @ 05:37 PM by philjwolf

reply to post by super70

you can not tell by either photo if its uphill.... there is a peak on the right side.. so it could be downhill ... were on earth.. there is no way of telling.. (grin)

reply posted on 8-10-2008 @ 05:39 PM by Phage

reply to post by philjwolf

Actually you can. The full image is of a crater, it's pretty obvious which way the slope runs. I'd show it, but like I said, don't have my tools. Maybe in a few hours if anyone's still interested.

reply posted on 8-10-2008 @ 05:46 PM by philjwolf

reply to post by philjwolf

ahhh.. well.. thats different if the whole image is a crater.... thanks.. I allways respect your opinion.

reply posted on 8-10-2008 @ 05:48 PM by ziggystar60

reply to post by Phage

Here you go, Phage, this is the full image:

reply posted on 8-10-2008 @ 05:53 PM by Nohup

Originally posted by ziggystar60
Here you go, Phage, this is the full image:

No, for this one you need the full, multi-hundred MB JP2 image to see what's really going on, if it's not already obvious.

reply posted on 8-10-2008 @ 05:56 PM by Luminal

It´s downhill. Natural flow of sand ect.. look at dark lines sliding out from the top of the ridge and down.

reply posted on 8-10-2008 @ 05:59 PM by Phage

Originally posted by Nohup

No, for this one you need the full, multi-hundred MB JP2 image to see what's really going on, if it's not already obvious.

Almost.
1.47 Gb

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