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reply posted on 7-10-2008 @ 10:02 PM by scotty18
Originally posted by truthwarrior7
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I never insulted you. Quite tripping. You stated you had this video. Then show it.

If not, then keep your mouth shut, because I can say I have video of 911 showing king kong crapping on the WTC before it came down, but if I don't show it, it does not exist by all reasoning and standards.
[edit on 7-10-2008 by truthwarrior7]


1) "Beam me up scotty" was an attempt at insult, nothing more nothing less. A poor attempt, but still an attempt.

2) I never stated I had a video, I guess that makes you a liar.

3) I don't need to "keep my mouth shut" simply because you don't like my answer. If anyone should shut up it is you based on your lies, insults and statements about killing people.


reply posted on 7-10-2008 @ 10:09 PM by thedigirati
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You Sir or Madam are obviously young, and take care what you wish for, you may end up at the head of such lines. The other Obvious fallacy to the anti-gravity theory is that the rear blade IS spinning, the helicopter would spin in a circle, because the rear fan would produce thrust. it would not move parallel to the force exerted


reply posted on 7-10-2008 @ 10:14 PM by truthwarrior7




reply posted on 7-10-2008 @ 10:17 PM by Atlantican
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Here's some real video. at around :50 to :60

www.youtube.com...

Now if one was aiming to produce a perfectly still video they could but this was by accident. It's called the "stroboscopic effect".

You also don't need to be such a punk about it. When I was 14 I had a little more patience than you. I was simply stating what it is rather than have a bunch of people in a panic over some black project using ancient body types to hide modern tech. LOL! Relax!


reply posted on 7-10-2008 @ 11:01 PM by Phage
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Helicopter rotor heads maintain a constant RPM. It is crucial to the flight characteristics. No "massaging" necessary.



reply posted on 7-10-2008 @ 11:10 PM by obsidience
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Phage, I am by no means an expert. But how does a helicopter go up? I believe you have to increase the rotor velocity.

Assuming you are correct and the rotor velocity is constant and the video camera FPS is constant then the optical effect would show a blade moving at a constant speed or not moving at all (even with the aircraft turning). This is not happening, therefore the video editor massaged or was selective with the frames on the output video.

Obsidience


reply posted on 7-10-2008 @ 11:25 PM by Phage
Originally posted by obsidience
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Phage, I am by no means an expert. But how does a helicopter go up? I believe you have to increase the rotor velocity.

Assuming you are correct and the rotor velocity is constant and the video camera FPS is constant then the optical effect would show a blade moving at a constant speed or not moving at all (even with the aircraft turning). This is not happening, therefore the video editor massaged or was selective with the frames on the output video.

Obsidience

Vertical motion is controlled by changing the pitch of all the blades at the same time (collective).

I'm not sure what you mean. The camera frame rate matches the rpm of the main rotor blades so the stroboscopic effect causes the blades to appear stationary.

Do you mean the tail rotor? It rotates a different rate from the main rotor so there is no synchronization.

If you mean the very slight motion of the main rotor, the rpm control is not absolutely perfect so the synchronization is not perfect. I posted a video of a ceiling fan earlier. This shows the result of slight differences between rotor speed and frame rate.


reply posted on 7-10-2008 @ 11:44 PM by obsidience
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You learn something every day. Thanks for the info.

On your question. I was talking about the main rotor. The minor blade movement appears to be somewhat fixed relative to the main body of the aircraft. The blade also appears to react to gravity if you look at the end of the video when the 5th or odd rotor drops down when the helicopter is at an angle. This type of movement should not happen with a constant FPS and RPM. If there is a constant FPS and RPM the rotor would appear to be moving at a constant speed or not at all relative to the video camera.


reply posted on 7-10-2008 @ 11:59 PM by Phage
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I don't see it that way. What I see is a slight "movement" of the main rotor blades, sometime clockwise, sometimes anticlockwise. This is due to very slight changes in the rotor RPM. As I said the control is not perfect.


reply posted on 8-10-2008 @ 02:52 PM by Snift
Originally posted by truthwarrior7
I don't believe the "frame rate" lie!

This is anti-Gravity. Thee is no way to slow down the frame rate to make it appear that the rotors aren't moving.

Good luck reproducing this for us all, "debunkers".

The entire term "debunker" implies that you are breaking aprt the illusions to get to the truth.

However, many so called "debunkers" these days are government agents, debunking legitimate conspiracies.

The frame-rate argument is for dummies.



How can some people be so ignorant? This is as plain as day.
Example: swing a jump rope at a constant rate in front of you, now time it carefully and keep the pace steady, start blinking your eyes as the rope would be reaching the bottom of the swing, and open them as it comes up in front of you..
OMGz the rope is staying at one place but you're sure that your swinging it!

On a serious note, High speed cameras can capture objects at 40,000fps.
Thats forty thousand images for each second of time passing.
Now if a rotor is spinning at a typical rate, say 500rpm as in a Scorpion, you simply slow the capture rate by 0.0125, and suprise! The blade has stopped.
The rear rotor turns at a very different and non constant rate, so as expected, it continues to move (just like in the video)

Do this if you're in the US and have 60hz electric power, get a box fan, turn it on low and look through it, past the blades, to the other side at a lamp.
Suprise again! The blades are appearing to move slower. This has so many examples that its not even worth listing them all.
And another thing, did anyone turn the volume up and listen to the obvious noise of the blades?
I don't mean to offend by this post but it aggervates me when someone goes off and calls BS/governmentworker/debunker when it only takes common since and a small understanding to the working of electronics to plainly see this.


reply posted on 8-10-2008 @ 03:06 PM by -0mega-
Originally posted by truthwarrior7
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post by Phage



Hey Phag,
I see the fan moving and I see blur.

Another one bits the dust......




In the original video posted in this thread you *CAN* see the blades moving as well.

Just look and you'll notice that at certain points one of the blades is ABOVE the cockpit, and then suddenly it seems to shift so the cockpit is between 2 blades.

Now how can that happen if they're PERFECTLY still?

Especially the last few seconds, the movement there between Chopper & Rotor seems to be totally different compared to all the other footage in that clip.

And please don't come with the blur stuff, a few of Zaphod's videos don't have blur either, and in one of them the rotors are even spazzing out like crazy. (The civilian craft one)

Whether Anti-Gravity EXISTS isn't the question.

Whether this is an EXAMPLE of anti-gravity, is.

And IMHO (and that of others apparently) it is not.

All you really have to do is trace the lines of the rotor blades and see where they don't match with the starting position.

And trust me, you will see it happening.

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