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Tonights Town Hall Debate Discussion

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posted on Oct, 7 2008 @ 09:44 PM
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I believe the US "stays on thier goodside" for very different reasons, but thats a discussion for another thread on not this one.

Back on topic, I found this debate stale and I dont think either made a good case for themselves...both swam away from virtually every question asked and spent the entire 90+ mins putting everyone asleep.


So "MY FRIENDS" that was a poor debat in my eyes




posted on Oct, 7 2008 @ 09:45 PM
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I really enjoyed tonights debate. Both candidates explained themselves well on where they stood much better in this format than in the previous debates.

I know most people were not swayed in who they will vote for by this debate, but at least they can walk away assured where their candidate stands.

I happen to support McCain. He is a good honorable man who clearly showed his experience on the issues tonight.

But I will say this, I was surpised how well Obama carried himself this time without reading from a teleprompter but he did show his inexperience when it comes to Foreign policy and issues around the world.

I think that McCain will be the next president and America will be better because of it. My 2 cents



posted on Oct, 7 2008 @ 09:47 PM
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Given that Sen. Obama has much to loose and Sen. McCain ned so much ground to gain, I will give the debate to Obama. Not because he did much better than McCain but becasue McCain didn't do enough if anything to sound close that gap.

McCain brought a new economic plan to the table and already the talking heads in CNN are saying "that McCain wants to buy a hous for every American", which makes some sense if you think about it.

Talking about Obama been a socialist.



posted on Oct, 7 2008 @ 09:48 PM
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Disappointing how they ran right into a rehearsed stump speech at the end. That final question was easy to answer and would have been very insightful.



posted on Oct, 7 2008 @ 09:49 PM
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Originally posted by Cool Hand Luke
I really enjoyed tonights debate. Both candidates explained themselves well on where they stood much better in this format than in the previous debates.


Where you watching the same debate as the rest of us? both candidates danced around questions and refused to give answers. how is this explaining themselves?



posted on Oct, 7 2008 @ 09:51 PM
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I think I actually enjoyed the first debate much more. It was more interactive and there were quite a few punches thrown. Overall I was very disappointed in this one. I think Bingo night is more exciting than this was.



posted on Oct, 7 2008 @ 09:54 PM
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Originally posted by secretstash
I think I actually enjoyed the first debate much more. It was more interactive and there were quite a few punches thrown. Overall I was very disappointed in this one. I think Bingo night is more exciting than this was.


I agree half of the answers they gave were the same answers they’ve already given in debates and interviews. Even if the questions were not the same, lol, dull and very similar to everything we’ve seen from both of them before. I thought McCain would do well in a town hall setting, however I think on points he didn’t win and when it comes to personality he barely won. Obama held his own easily because there wasn’t much to hold his own to; McCain was not what I expected him to be tonight.



posted on Oct, 7 2008 @ 09:57 PM
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The mere amount of post in this thread right now goes to show you how much of a stinker this debate was compared to Biden/Palin debate.

Edit to add: Even the Fox News talking heads seem unimpressed by Sen. McCain performance, I guess wasn't nasty enough on his attacks for their liking.

[edit on 7-10-2008 by Bunch]



posted on Oct, 7 2008 @ 10:00 PM
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McCain's attempts at being funny and witty left me uncomfortable and embarrassed.

Tom Brokaw: Who would you appoint for Treasury?

McCain: NOT YOU TOMMMM!!!1111

What?



posted on Oct, 7 2008 @ 10:02 PM
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OK, from an interested outsider.

GOOD DEBATE!!!

This is a close election. No one lost significantly here. That's important. Obama may have gotten some points with McCain's last statement. Weak.



posted on Oct, 7 2008 @ 10:03 PM
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Originally posted by davion
McCain's attempts at being funny and witty left me uncomfortable and embarrassed.

Tom Brokaw: Who would you appoint for Treasury?

McCain: NOT YOU TOMMMM!!!1111

What?


Which is weird because McCain can be funny when he wants to be, he is a pretty amusing guy, maybe he tried too hard? The “KGB” comment I think fell flat, for the second time. I couldn’t tell if he meant that to be humorous or serious but it didn’t seem presidential the first time and this time it seemed like a bad joke.



posted on Oct, 7 2008 @ 10:03 PM
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I honestly do not know who I am going to vote for.

Obama would like move the U.S. toward a socialist society across the board.

McCain would like to renegotiate mortgages to the current value of houses (what exactly is current... how do you do that ?) and on top of that, double tax credits to encourage folks to have more babies.

Neither candidate deserves a vote.

My vote is to start over and pick two new candidates.
Can we do that



posted on Oct, 7 2008 @ 10:04 PM
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I am slathering at the bit to see what Letterman has to say tonight. I'm putting my weight belt on now so I don't blow out my hernia.



posted on Oct, 7 2008 @ 10:06 PM
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I just heard in CNN the explanation for that: "Its is funny when you are surrounded by 10,000 strong supporters, other than that his jokes don't make sense"



posted on Oct, 7 2008 @ 10:06 PM
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It's funny to me that these debates never raise the issue of the federal reserve, but never fail to give both candidates the opportunity to show their support for Israel. They always talk about cutting spending, but no mention of ending the Iraq war and cutting our empire spending around the world. We need to reduce our dependence on foreign oil, but once again, no mention of how much oil is used in our war in Iraq. The problem with this country comes straight from our federal reserve and fraction banking system.

Why does John McCain continue to say "We need to KEEP taxes low"? Is he under then impression that our taxes are low?



posted on Oct, 7 2008 @ 10:07 PM
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I really enjoyed the debate as well.

I feel they both performed better than the first debate.

I did come away with the impression that McCain was too much on the offensive. As one commentator stated "(McCain was) Wildly throwing punches, hoping at least one would connect".

I feel Obama really talked on the level the nation could grasp, and understand. And I am glad he didn't pull the whole event, and the issues down by potentially falling for the "bait" McCain was wildly tossing about.

I must also say, I feel Obama really expanded on his positions more-so than McCain. Where Obama would give his his position and explain why/how it would/could work - McCain on the other hand would (in MANY instances) give his position and then state "And I know how to do it" without further elaboration. Which, in my opinion is a giant mistake on his part.

In my opinion, Obama definitely won this debate.

Many commentators and political analysts have stated this past week that McCain really had to connect to the people, and win this debate to have a good chance of getting into the White House. I personally did not see that happen tonight.

Bottom line is Obama continues to look and act more presidential, focusing on the REAL issues, rather than trying to start a fight. And I feel that tonight, there is a great possibility the majority of the American people saw that as well. And also that this debate played a bigger role in the election as a whole than we currently realize.

My .02



posted on Oct, 7 2008 @ 10:10 PM
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Originally posted by rapinbatsisaltherage
Which is weird because McCain can be funny when he wants to be, he is a pretty amusing guy, maybe he tried too hard? The “KGB” comment I think fell flat, for the second time. I couldn’t tell if he meant that to be humorous or serious but it didn’t seem presidential the first time and this time it seemed like a bad joke.


It felt like you could put this debate and the first debate next to each other and play them together and it'd be exactly the same. I heard most of their talking points in the last debate word for word.

Overall I think Obama gave a bit more meat this time around compared to McCain. Other than his breakdown on how he'd like to fix the economic crisis it felt like the vast majority of what McCain focused on was attacking Obama and talking fluffy nonsense. Obama spent most of his time trying to correct McCain and get his views in while Brokaw whined about time.

[edit on 7-10-2008 by davion]



posted on Oct, 7 2008 @ 10:11 PM
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I absolutely cannot believe that Senator Obama believes Healthcare Coverage is a RIGHT. Give me a break, that leaves a completely open door towards ABUSE, and FRAUD. So us, the American taxpayers, should support a bum who decides to lay around watching Television all day while they receive "Social Services Cheques", and now Healthcare on par with that offered to Federal Government Employees? What a joke, that is not only offering support towards those who wish to abuse the system, it is also taking away one of the VERY elements which draws workers towards employment in the Government Sector.

On another note, the Coverage Bill for Children which McCain voted against, was in fact a horrible bill. I remember discussing that proposal with many acquaintances that have a tremendous amount of experience with Pediatric Care, and many of whom have their own Children who do in fact suffer from Pre-Existing Conditions. They all agreed that is was not a good Bill.



posted on Oct, 7 2008 @ 10:11 PM
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Yes, Obama won the debate again (as usual) due to that old intelligence thing he has going on.

McCain was McSame.

But I wan the head of BROKAW. He was totally biased and helping McCain all night. He set up questions to allow McCain to answer Obama and would not allow Obama to answer back. He even kept cutting Obama off and not McCain.

Brokaw should be fired or else meet me in the parking lot.



posted on Oct, 7 2008 @ 10:18 PM
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Originally posted by Zarniwoop
I honestly do not know who I am going to vote for.

Obama would like move the U.S. toward a socialist society across the board.

McCain would like to renegotiate mortgages to the current value of houses (what exactly is current... how do you do that ?) and on top of that, double tax credits to encourage folks to have more babies.




The current values of the houses are the depreciated value which came about due to Foreclosures and Mortgage Defaults. I have seen homes selling for $500,000 in neighborhoods which did have the houses assessed for over $800,000 as recently as last year. Do you think it fair to pay a Mortgage based upon the Latter assessment when your House is now worth the Former? That is what Senator McCain's proposal is.



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