What a sad event.
I think this particular presidential race has brought out a lot of negative feelings of anger and hate. Looks like it isn't simply confined to the
States either.
It's ripe for such things considering the groundbreaking notion of having a female vice president or a black president. The problem I have is that
there seems to be those supporters that are so worked up over the rhetoric and lies that they outright hate the other side.
I may not vote for Obama, I may not vote for McCain, but it won't be based on my belief in the outrageous claims thrown around that seem so easily
swallowed by the general public.
There are those political supporters that have been subtly fueling the fighting, and even recently some candidates are calling others "terrorists"
by association. That's a dangerous and irresponsible accusation to make. As much as a candidate tries to distance themselves from the attacks they
never do it in such an adamant way as to stamp such things out because...well...every little bit helps. They know this.
This race has revealed a lot of ugly things.
If this account is accurate then I think the hate-filled attacks need to subside a bit because they are being absorbed hook, line, and sinker.
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[edit on 7-10-2008 by lee anoma]
Man shot for wearing Obama T-shirt, page 1
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Man shot for wearing Obama T-shirt
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Data administrator Dube Egwuatu, 36, needed hospital treatment after he was shot three times with a ball-bearing gun.(visit the link for the full news article)
Mr Egwuatu was attacked as he tried to buy a mobile phone card at an off-licence in Upper Norwood, south London, on Sunday afternoon while wearing a T-shirt emblazoned with an image of the black US presidential candidate.
A man confronted Mr Egwuatu inside the shop and launched a volley of racist abuse before chasing him with a Staffordshire bull terrier.
The victim ran to his car and tried to drive off but the attacker, described as 6ft and with short hair, attempted to climb in through the passenger window before pulling out the gun and shooting Mr Egwuatu in the face and shoulder at point-blank range.
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reply posted on 7-10-2008 @ 01:01 PM by burdman30ott6
reply to post by thisguyrighthere
That's what 'BB' stands for? I never knew that. Just assumed 'BB' was the company name of the first air rifle manufacturer or something.
I think there's probably a lot more to this story than is listed. Either the guy was simply looking for a reason to shoot someone or the victim was targeted for other reasons outside of simply wearing an Obama shirt.
That's what 'BB' stands for? I never knew that. Just assumed 'BB' was the company name of the first air rifle manufacturer or something.
I think there's probably a lot more to this story than is listed. Either the guy was simply looking for a reason to shoot someone or the victim was targeted for other reasons outside of simply wearing an Obama shirt.
reply posted on 7-10-2008 @ 01:09 PM by Sublime620
[SNIP] The guy got chased by a man and shot in the face with a BB gun for wearing a shirt with Obama on it. Meanwhile, you've got idiots at rallies
yelling that Obama is "a terrorist" and "kill him".
Don't downplay this as nothing. It wasn't people shooting each other in faces with BB guns because it's funny or simply to be mean. It was racist and filled with hate.
They never tried to make it seem as if it was a real gun. I don't think many survive at getting shot in the face with a bullet.
But before you down play it, let me chase you around with a dog and then shoot you in the face with a BB gun. Then we'll see whether you'd want the news to report it and civil/criminal action to be taken.
Christ. People will do anything for their party these days.
By the way, he's what he got chased by:
And I will concede that possibly this thread title should be changed. It is misleading, but the article itself is exactly as it should be.
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Don't downplay this as nothing. It wasn't people shooting each other in faces with BB guns because it's funny or simply to be mean. It was racist and filled with hate.
They never tried to make it seem as if it was a real gun. I don't think many survive at getting shot in the face with a bullet.
But before you down play it, let me chase you around with a dog and then shoot you in the face with a BB gun. Then we'll see whether you'd want the news to report it and civil/criminal action to be taken.
Christ. People will do anything for their party these days.
By the way, he's what he got chased by:
And I will concede that possibly this thread title should be changed. It is misleading, but the article itself is exactly as it should be.
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reply posted on 7-10-2008 @ 01:15 PM by thisguyrighthere
reply to post by Sublime620
You better be REALLY good with that BB gun. You start running at me waving something that looks like a gun you and dog are apt to be put down right quick.
But then NH isn't the UK.
Stupid people have always existed. Certain modern ideas have increased the number of stupid people within society but Obama didnt make them stupid and McCain didnt make them stupid and this election didnt make them stupid.
This idiot with the BB gun was obviously up to no good. He would have "shot" just about anyone that remotely gave his stupid mind reason to do so.
I'll stop playing it down if you stop playing it up.
You better be REALLY good with that BB gun. You start running at me waving something that looks like a gun you and dog are apt to be put down right quick.
But then NH isn't the UK.
Stupid people have always existed. Certain modern ideas have increased the number of stupid people within society but Obama didnt make them stupid and McCain didnt make them stupid and this election didnt make them stupid.
This idiot with the BB gun was obviously up to no good. He would have "shot" just about anyone that remotely gave his stupid mind reason to do so.
I'll stop playing it down if you stop playing it up.
reply posted on 7-10-2008 @ 01:17 PM by Sublime620
reply to post by FlyersFan
Though you may not sport a T-Shirt, I am sure you are aware of world politics and do care about the outcomes of such. Perhaps this person was an American over seas. Maybe he has family in America. Or maybe he just wants Obama to win.
I don't see how it should be of any consequence to anyone if people outside of the US are choosing favorites. Unless they start asking to vote, last time I checked, we promote freedom of speech. It's their right to speculate.
Though you may not sport a T-Shirt, I am sure you are aware of world politics and do care about the outcomes of such. Perhaps this person was an American over seas. Maybe he has family in America. Or maybe he just wants Obama to win.
I don't see how it should be of any consequence to anyone if people outside of the US are choosing favorites. Unless they start asking to vote, last time I checked, we promote freedom of speech. It's their right to speculate.
reply posted on 7-10-2008 @ 01:20 PM by burdman30ott6
reply to post by thisguyrighthere
LOL, I was thinking the exact same thing as I read his post, man. All that talk about chasing with a pit bull and shooting with a BB gun.
.357
Mag > BB Gun, .357 Mag > pit bull, .357 Mag = Thank God I live in the USA. There's a good reason I can't ever recall reading a headline in America
about a racially charged "shooting" taking place with a BB gun.
LOL, I was thinking the exact same thing as I read his post, man. All that talk about chasing with a pit bull and shooting with a BB gun.
.357
Mag > BB Gun, .357 Mag > pit bull, .357 Mag = Thank God I live in the USA. There's a good reason I can't ever recall reading a headline in America
about a racially charged "shooting" taking place with a BB gun.reply posted on 7-10-2008 @ 01:25 PM by Sublime620
reply to post by thisguyrighthere
How am I playing it up? Everyone on here attacked the press for writing an article about it. I'm not calling for a witch hunt or suggesting anything other than this article being news worthy.
If McCain or Obama broke wind it would make the news, and most of the partisan hacks on this board would eat it up. Someone gets shot in the face with a BB gun and people cry that it's sensationalized.
How am I playing it up? Everyone on here attacked the press for writing an article about it. I'm not calling for a witch hunt or suggesting anything other than this article being news worthy.
If McCain or Obama broke wind it would make the news, and most of the partisan hacks on this board would eat it up. Someone gets shot in the face with a BB gun and people cry that it's sensationalized.
reply posted on 7-10-2008 @ 01:31 PM by Sublime620
reply to post by burdman30ott6
Oh, all apologizes. Not everyone in the America and the UK is a gun toting redneck who always carries a pistol with them.
For the rest of the civilized world the reality of being chased by a crazed man with a pit bull and a BB gun would suck. That's great for you that you don't have to worry, but please don't push your ideals around as if it represents all of America.
Most of us do not carry around handguns in public.
(And yes, let's be proud that most "radically charged" shootings take place with real guns. That's a real great sticker to wear. )
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Oh, all apologizes. Not everyone in the America and the UK is a gun toting redneck who always carries a pistol with them.
For the rest of the civilized world the reality of being chased by a crazed man with a pit bull and a BB gun would suck. That's great for you that you don't have to worry, but please don't push your ideals around as if it represents all of America.
Most of us do not carry around handguns in public.
(And yes, let's be proud that most "radically charged" shootings take place with real guns. That's a real great sticker to wear.
) [edit on 7-10-2008 by Sublime620]
reply posted on 7-10-2008 @ 01:32 PM by Sublime620
reply to post by Keyhole
No, but I think the man who was shot might have reacted different had he been shot in the face with a gun, and not an air rifle.
No, but I think the man who was shot might have reacted different had he been shot in the face with a gun, and not an air rifle.
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