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reply posted on 7-10-2008 @ 01:41 PM by The Axeman
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Certainly could have been.
No one's to say either side is above sending (unofficially, of course  ) people in to the others events just to cause a stir.
But the idea that Obama might be in danger if elected is not one that just cropped up this week, people. That came up during the primaries, too, as
soon as he started his campaign.
Remember the scene in Delirious, when Eddie Murphy is talking about if Jesse Jackson were to be elected? Same thing.
[edit on 10/7/08 by The Axeman]
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reply posted on 7-10-2008 @ 01:47 PM by maybereal11
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Originally posted by RRconservative
Originally posted by justyc
politicians should just be banned from mentioning the opponent or opposition before elections. they should just stick to talking about what THEY are
going to do if they get in (and be held accountable for it if they do get in).
WOW!
It's amazing how quick people are ready to throw out the 1st Amendment when it effects their favorite candidate.
It's amazing how many things you can't say about Obama.
1. Can't mention his former pastor and mentor, Reverand Wright.
2. Can't mention his middle name is Hussein.
3. Can't mention his questionable Muslim roots.
4. Can't mention he is one of the most liberal Senators.
5. Can't mention that he voted for infanticide.
6. Can't mention that he is closely associated with terrorist Bill Ayers.
7. Can't mention how he worked out a deal with slum-lord Bill Rezko to obtain his mansion.
8. Can't mention he has big ears....just ask Maureen Dowd.
9. Can't mention the possibility that he is not a natural born citizen, and is not eligible to run for President.
10. Can't mention his lack of experience.
11. Can't mention that he tried to legislate defeat in Iraq.
This is just right off the top of my head....I could go on and on.
NO ONE is saying anything about disregarding the first amendment!
This very discussion proves the CONTRARY.
WHAT YOU SEEMED TO BE SOUR ABOUT IS NOT THAT YOU CAN"T SAY THESE THINGS (YOU JUST DID BTW) BUT RATHER THAT YOU ARE CHALLENGED TO SUPPORT HALF TRUTHS
AND BIAS STATEMENTS WITH FACTS AND ACCURACY AND WHEN THESE CLAIMS EMERGE FROM THE FILTER OF OBJECTIVE THOUGHT AND FACT CHECKING ...WHAT IS LEFT ARE
THINGS THAT THE VAST AMOUNT OF INTELLIGENT AMERICANS THINK ARE IRRELEVANT.
For example....Can't mention his questionable Muslim roots.
(1) Does he have Muslim roots? (Accuracy)
(2) If so, why is having "Muslim roots" or people in your ancestry that described themselves as Muslims a "questionable" thing? (relevancy)
What is left but to believe the unfounded claim is an appeal to intolerance and racism?
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reply posted on 7-10-2008 @ 01:49 PM by grover
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reply posted on 7-10-2008 @ 01:54 PM by grover
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It has actually happened at several rallies.
And given the fact that we have had 2 candidates assissinated or shot in my lifetime (George Wallace... shot, Bobby Kennedy... killed) and given the
fact that the McCain camp has not to date coming out against such sentiments... it suggests anyway that either they really don't care or are
implicitly agreeing with it.
I don't believe that personally... I just think that they are too clueless to understand the implications.
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reply posted on 7-10-2008 @ 02:39 PM by Anonymous ATS
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Just a theory of mine but what if the Republicans want to lose the election. I mean from a logical standpoint their was much better candidates in my
opinion to choose from. If you follow the neural programming on the left that McCain is 4 more years of Bush than that connection would mean that he
is on what Bush and company are doing with the economy. Basically they don't want a republican in the White House when it gets really bad. I think
their strategy is that after 4 years of Obama handcuffed with a depression voters will be ready for another change and in the process make Obama and
his administration a laughing stock.
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reply posted on 7-10-2008 @ 02:48 PM by Open_Minded Skeptic
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reply posted on 7-10-2008 @ 03:03 PM by sos37
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So we're coming to the conclusion that any hate crime that involves Obama tee shirts or other memorabilia is the fault of the McCain/Palin campaign?
You're comfortable saying there was ZERO racial tension and hatred in this country prior to the McCain/Palin campaign's recent volley of political
ads and rallies?
Oh and BH, your comment about prosecuting Palin for defamation for comments made during an election made me laugh. Any lawyer would tell you "good
luck pursuing that case".
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reply posted on 7-10-2008 @ 03:14 PM by Open_Minded Skeptic
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I am coming to no such conclusion, nor that there was/is no racial tension that is not related to the current McCain and Palin tactics.
I am saying, perhaps not entirely clearly, that the McCain/Palin tactics add to such tensions. Something we do not need.
This particular incident likely had no relationship to the current smear job (especially since it happened in Britain)... but I do maintain that their
tactics are harmful to the country and that McCain and Palin should be embarrassed to be employing them.
This kind of behavior does not occur to honorable people, and if it ever does happen to, honorable people reject the notion.
Only my opinion, of course...
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reply posted on 7-10-2008 @ 03:18 PM by Grafilthy
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The reason people find this so serious SOS, is because we have had the Pavlovian reflex of: Terrorists kill; Kill Terrorists beaten into our brains
for the last 7 years. So, when the McCain campaign repeatedly associates a United States senator and terrorism.....and people are yelling out loud to
"kill him" at a political rally, yes I have a problem.
What is really disturbing....is people like yourself defend it.
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reply posted on 7-10-2008 @ 03:31 PM by dooper
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The thing that drives me buggy is denial.
We have an old saying down here that "birds of a feather, flock together."
When you look at a person to consider his nature, you look at who he hangs around with, socializes with, shows up at the same places as, and conducts
mutually beneficial activities.
Early documentation indicate that Obama was raised a Muslim, and even had a slip of the tongue, " . . . as a Muslim . . ."
Obama kicked off his political career with Ayers. Ayers later had Obama distribute millions of dollars he had raised. Ayers did the same thing the
9-11 attackers did, but he was too stupid to be efficient. Ayers should be shot.
How about Rezko extorting others to raise money for Obama? When you look at the twisted connections, well, let's just say that Obama was created,
bought, and paid for.
For 20 years, Obama has as his mentor another radical, hate-filled man who detests not only America, but whites. For 20 years, Obama never hears a
word of this? No, Obama is lying.
Then there are his ties with Louis Farrakhan, our local brand of Islamic America haters.
All America haters.
Obama is the choice candidate of Muslims around the world. Need I say more?
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reply posted on 7-10-2008 @ 03:35 PM by Grafilthy
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reply posted on 7-10-2008 @ 03:41 PM by dgtempe
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I certainly hope Obama is well protected tonight. I am ashamed that things like these happen in this country. The pure filth emminating from BOTH
oponents, nothing letting us know, exactly what they plan for the country but the constant shots at one another. tsk tsk.
Anything goes...Absolutely no class in expressing differing points of view on a civil level.
Just trash. And i still say that people are not ready for Obama.
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reply posted on 7-10-2008 @ 03:54 PM by dooper
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Since you appear to be having problems making connections, I'll type this real slow.
You seem to think the Obama/terrorist connection is no connection at all. I agree with many that Obama doesn't have the balls to lead a breakout
from a two-hole outhouse.
Ayers a former terrorist, as well as Farrakhan, Dohrn, Pfleger, Wright, Khaladi (and his connections to Michelle,) and Obama share the same orbits.
That is one, fine, pro-American, non-racist group.
So if someone hates Obama, or shouts "kill him!", somehow it really doesn't surprise me. And if God forbid someone actually does so, then that
won't surprise me either.
Don't worry. We'll get exactly the President we deserve.
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reply posted on 7-10-2008 @ 04:02 PM by DroolsAlot
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Man, Obama kicks ass!!! I dunno why the republicans are trying to say hes a terrorist when clearly he is not. I hope Obama wins personally.
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reply posted on 7-10-2008 @ 04:07 PM by sos37
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Originally posted by Grafilthy
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The reason people find this so serious SOS, is because we have had the Pavlovian reflex of: Terrorists kill; Kill Terrorists beaten into our brains
for the last 7 years. So, when the McCain campaign repeatedly associates a United States senator and terrorism.....and people are yelling out loud to
"kill him" at a political rally, yes I have a problem.
What is really disturbing....is people like yourself defend it.
Oh I'm defending it, am I? Perhaps you could quote the line of text where I even hint at defending such?
This is the SECOND time you've jumped to a conclusion without just cause and about ME in particular. I have to wonder how often are you jumping to
conclusions, sir. Who is it that is blindly following a political party? I say your hate for Republicans has blinded you to any sort of reason.
And as for the first line of your response, is it your argument that terrorists do not kill? That they are fine, upstanding members of their
communities who are just misunderstood?
There is a LONG list of dead people as a result of terrorist attacks around the world who would disagree with you, not to mention our very own
American brothers and sisters who died in 9/11.
You will continue to hear about terrorism from both sides of the political spectrum because it is very much an issue in today's world, whether you
want to acknowledge it or not.
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reply posted on 7-10-2008 @ 04:27 PM by stinkhorn
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You know what they say about the shoe fitting?
He wants to destroy this country from the inside out, he is doing a good job of it too.
Obarry has ties to domestic terrorists, the truth is out finally.
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reply posted on 7-10-2008 @ 04:31 PM by LiquidMirage
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reply posted on 7-10-2008 @ 04:31 PM by stinkhorn
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So, the truth is filth? Why did obarry associate with a terrorist? How about rezko, a syrian muslim crook? Rezko is talking to the feds right now,
wait until obarry is mentioned in some scam or another...bye, bye barry!
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reply posted on 7-10-2008 @ 04:38 PM by maria_stardust
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