Obama Hatred At McCain-Palin Rallies: "Terrorist!" "Kill Him!", page 3
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reply posted on 7-10-2008 @ 11:07 AM by Open_Minded Skeptic
OK, I'm going to buck the trend here...

I do in fact hold McCain and Palin and the McCain campaign responsible for this.

Not in a legal sense; I'm sure they are smart enough to avoid that. But to me, after listening to this crap being spewed mostly by Palin these last few days, it is clear that the "he's a terrorist" response is exactly the response they are after.

It's called Plausible Deniability (thank you Ronald Reagan). In other circles, it is also called Incitement To Riot, and is in fact a crime. I believe that McCain and Palin are skirting the edge of this law, knowingly and deliberately.

And the Plausible Deniability part will allow them to be shocked, shocked if anyone takes action based on this fear mongering and distortion.

Yeah, the bonehead that shouted this is of course the one directly responsible. But to me there is no doubt at all that this is exactly the kind of atmosphere McCain/Palin (Rove?) want.

For someone of real leadership ability, there should be plenty of real issue subjects on which to disagree with Obama. That McCain and Palin have sunk to this lowest of the low speaks volumes for their lack of such leadership, integrity and honor.

I find it sad, in a way... McCain at one time did demonstrate such honor and integrity, at least to a degree (being human, he, like Obama or me or anybody else, is not perfect). This recent kindergarten behavior is not acceptable and would by itself be enough to have him lose my vote if he ever had it.



reply posted on 7-10-2008 @ 11:55 AM by justyc
reply to post by RRconservative



i don't have a first amendment to throw away because i'm not american. im not rep or dem so i dont give a hoot about who said what about who.

my point is that if there is dirt to be dug up on a politician of any side, it is the job of the news media to bring it up, not the politician.

perhaps you would prefer to have all pre-election campaigning to have no substance, not policies and no one knows what the hell your supposed to be voting for because all you know is how to slag off the opposition.

its about time that politics became real and accountable for again instead of gossip and inuendo. they run countries for god's sake, not daytime tv shows!

can you tell me what policies either candidates have actually said they would implement?


reply posted on 7-10-2008 @ 12:09 PM by jsobecky
reply to post by grover




Originally posted by grover

... What I did say is that when you demonize someone especially to the extent the far right has a tendency to do... then if someone who is either unhinged or extremist takes it as a call for action... then there is a problem... especially if he already knows that there are such thoughts out there...


What about all the crap out there on the internet, grover? It can incite people. So can books. Maybe we should ban books. Oh, and don't forget radio and TV. Better get that Fairness Doctrine dusted off...


reply posted on 7-10-2008 @ 12:23 PM by Benevolent Heretic
Originally posted by jsobecky
What about all the crap out there on the internet, grover? It can incite people. So can books. Maybe we should ban books. Oh, and don't forget radio and TV. Better get that Fairness Doctrine dusted off...


Legal Definition of "Incite a Riot"


INCITE A RIOT - Urging or instigating other persons to riot, but shall not be deemed to mean the mere oral or written (1) advocacy of ideas or (2) expression of belief, not involving advocacy of any act or acts of violence or assertion of the rightness of, or the right to commit, any such act or acts.


So, you can express a belief or even advocate something without inciting a riot. But once you urge or instigate action, you're walking on thin ice. And I'm sure that would have to be decided by a court.

I'm actually wondering if what Palin is doing could be considered Defamation (slander) and punishable by law...


reply posted on 7-10-2008 @ 12:30 PM by The Axeman
Originally posted by Benevolent Heretic
I'm actually wondering if what Palin is doing could be considered
Defamation (slander) and punishable by law...


Oh, come now...

The whole point of two party politics is to defame the other guy -- keep the masses distracted while our country is stolen from beneath our feet.

They're doing a damn good job.



reply posted on 7-10-2008 @ 01:00 PM by FlyersFan
GROVER - I saw that speech. The people there were VERY badly behaved. I heard the organizers having to yell louder then the rowdies .... telling them to shut up etc. I could see the strain on the face of John McCain. He knew his message (whatever it was) was getting lost due to the activities of the crowd. Cindy McCain didn't look happy at all about it and was distracted by the ruckus. (yes, her face actually moved). The commentators were distracted by the idiots yelling threats and now no one is discussing what McCain said - they are just discussing the idiots. Those morons didn't help their cause (getting McCain elected), they hurt it.


Originally posted by Benevolent Heretic
I'm actually wondering if what Palin is doing could be considered
Defamation (slander) and punishable by law...

It's not slander. Its true. Therefore it's not punishable.

Originally posted by Benevolent Heretic
Chris Matthews yesterday voiced his theory

Any theory by Chris Matthews is totally corrupt and unbelievable.
He has destroyed any credibility he had.
(he actually used to be a good and reliable source of info)

I can't believe people don't recognize what's right in front of their faces.

I feel exactly the same way

Originally posted by Grafilthy
As far as the one who said "kill him".......would that not be a "terroristic threat" charge????? Sounds like a threat to me.

Yes. It is definately a threat and anyone who said any such tihng should be prosecuted to the full extent of the law. Definately.

Originally posted by SEEWHATUDO
I think this is going to back fire on McCain

He's already lost the election I'm sure. The only thing keeping his campaign alive is that the ultra-conservative base likes Govenor Palin. Without her his numbers would be in the basement.
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