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English Gematria - Bible related - Worldwide

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posted on Nov, 2 2008 @ 06:46 AM
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VERY nice addition. Thanks for that tidbit!




posted on Nov, 2 2008 @ 06:52 AM
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One of the more interesting ones "I" thought was "aliens taught".

Why? Because I believe there are some friendly aliens that came here to help us and taught us many thousands of years ago.

And the fact those Roman Numerals equal 74 just shows you just how far back all of this goes.



posted on Nov, 2 2008 @ 07:32 AM
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Yes, you make a good point there. That's the general consensus amongst the alternative history and occult community at large.

It seems that "aliens taught" and "alien knowledge" are pretty much the same thing to me.

Heck, even the word alien has a secret, occult meaning.



Alien
From Latin aliēnus, "belonging to someone else", then "exotic, foreign", from alius, "other". Cognate with Ancient Greek αλλος (allos), "another, different" and Old English elles, "else".

alias
c.1432, "otherwise called," from L. form of alius "at another time, in another way," from alius "(an)other," from PIE *al- "beyond" (cf. Skt. anya "other, different," Avestan anya-, Armenian ail, Gk. allos "another," Goth. aljis "other," O.E. elles "otherwise, else"). The noun meaning "assumed name" is first recorded 1605.


The connection I'm drawing here is a phonetic connection. In alchemy there's something called the "phonetic cabala" - it's a way of analyzing words and secret meanings of words by means of phonetic mutations, i.e. like sounding words and syllables. Sometimes the whole word isn't used, only roots or parts of the word. For example, phonetically the "vowel-L-vowel" sound is almost always used to represent God or beings from the sky. These are just a few examples: el (the base phonetic root of all this), elah, elohim, allah, el elyon.

I guarantee if you do a phonetic mutation of this word, and search for etymology roots, you WILL find very crazy connections.

Phonetic mutations: eli, ela, elo, elu, ely, ali, ala, alo, alu, aly, ali, ili, ila, ilo, ilu, ily, oli, ola, olo, olu, oly. These are just a FEW of the many many phonetic possibilities. Basically almost all vowels are mutable and can be changed. Vowels can also be added beside another vowel. Consonants are a little different and rely on phonetic similarities.

This definitely DEFINITELY relates to secret societies. They used this knowledge to hide meaning in words and language. This is also related to the Tower of Babel (to babble, to speak incoherently, to confuse language). It all derives from a single root language, and phonetic mutations occur over time. This is a whole different topic though! I can start a new thread if some of you show interest, just let me know!

EDIT: Take a look at my screen name.


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posted on Nov, 2 2008 @ 07:48 AM
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Just keep posting here because I don't check many other posts and I believe what we are talking about is connected virtually directly. If you wanna make a post of your own thats cool but add that info in here as well. There is just too much garbage IMHO to dig through here.

If people only knew what the connection we have going here .


Love the name BTW. Now it makes some sense...lol


What made you check back into this thread? I am so elated that you did!



posted on Nov, 2 2008 @ 07:54 AM
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I will do that. I might make a new topic directly related to the phonetic cabala or it's ET connections. I've encountered great opposition from the occult community at large over this topic thought. They're all so ignorant of their own art, and the most basic origins of this art. Most do not even know the difference between "cabala" and the "kabbalah."

Actually, I've been battling with people the past two days over this very topic. I've posted this subject on three different large occult forums, and NOT A SINGLE PERSON had a clue as to what I was trying to explain. They were very ignorant, and it saddened me deeply. Oh, and they even had the nerve to tell me I was crazy, ignorant, and I did not know what I was talking about. One guy even mentioned that I'll never even succeed in the spiritual path, but unfortunately he doesn't know what I know. I do not blame them, but they do not understand what they say! That's the very essence of The Work & The Word.


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It's funny you should mention the word "elated."



elation c.1386, from O.Fr. elacion, from L. elationem (nom. elatio), from elatus "elevated," pp. of efferre, from ex- "out" + ferre "carry" (see infer). Elate is c.1375, probably from L. elatus. Metaphoric sense of "lifting spirits" was in L. and has always been the principal meaning in Eng.


Look for a minute at Ferre and Eferre. We have ferrous, which stands for iron. Iron is the metal of man. It is also the metal of Mars. Ferre also means "to carry." I'll let you draw your own conclusion from this.

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posted on Nov, 2 2008 @ 08:08 AM
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I notice you mention the word ET. It just so happens and I have said it before that the "childish" leet speek for 37 is ET. Now with coming across the alien terms equalling 137 it is starting to come together.

As for the cabala terms I won't pretend to know anything about them. I know it's Jewish as far as the Kabbalah but I haven't had the TIME to get into all of that as I am on my own mission as you can see. If the well runs dry the Kabbalah is first on my list. I am sure I will get there.

Whats a good place to start when studying it and what is the difference between the two? It does have to do with gematria?

And yes you have elevated my spirit because I know I have someone who finally understands all these connections I have made/discovered and it feels real good.



posted on Nov, 2 2008 @ 08:30 AM
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Here's a few more words for you to ponder: elite, elijah, and illuminate (illuminate = illuminati - just change the 'e' to 'i'). It's interesting to note that the "illuminati" are also said to be a "cabal."



As for the cabala terms I won't pretend to know anything about them. I know it's Jewish as far as the Kabbalah but I haven't had the TIME to get into all of that as I am on my own mission as you can see. If the well runs dry the Kabbalah is first on my list. I am sure I will get there.

Hehe, actually it's not. This is the fundamental mistake everyone tends to make. I won't give you a hard time about it though, because you're not trying to "disprove me" or whatever. You see the same connections I'm making, and that's all that should really matter.



www.cassiopedia.org...
Cabala is Fulcanelli's term for a special use of language, drawing on phonetic similarities and other symbolic techniques for expanding the expressive reach of words. This is related to the Green Language or Language of the Birds of the alchemists.

Kabbalah is the Hebrew body of mystical tradition which contains techniques such as gematria, notariqon and temura, drawing on numeric equivalences of letters, numerology, permutations of letters, forming new texts by picking first letters of words and other such text manipulation. The Tree of Life and its sefirath are also part of this tradition. Kabbalah is most often applied to the Hebrew text of the Torah.


The "Language of the Birds" is meant to be allegorical of an arcane mystery. Can you draw the same connection?




Whats a good place to start when studying it and what is the difference between the two? It does have to do with gematria?

It has nothing to do with gematria, or the kabbalah, qabala, etc. It's in a class of its own. The term derives from cabal (a group dedicated to a secret purpose), and latin cabballus (meaing a horse - notice my display picture). It's tough to learn this art. It's almost as if one has a birth rite to this mystery. One has to be able to naturally, and very easily identify meaningful patterns. This is very very fundemental to the art. I would first learn about the rules of the phonetic cabala first. How we operate on words, etc.



And yes you have elevated my spirit because I know I have someone who finally understands all these connections I have made/discovered and it feels real good.

I'm glad to help you. I like how you used the word "elevated."


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posted on Nov, 2 2008 @ 12:36 PM
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time speed alien=137

Not sure this one makes any sense but I was trying to figure something out and stumbled on this one



posted on Nov, 2 2008 @ 12:37 PM
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I'll reply to this later. Not a lot of time ATM. Thanks for the post though.



posted on Nov, 2 2008 @ 05:28 PM
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Wow I found all of this really fascinating
I have added this for those that can't see the connections between patterns and language



High-speed photographic analysis reveals that, when exposed to human speech, newborns make tiny movements synchronized with basic language sounds called phonemes. What happens to the newborns sensitivity to human language sounds? Newborns respond to language sounds from any language, not just their own. However, by the age of one year, a baby's response to phonemes becomes more selective. They stop responding to phonemes that are absent from their own linguistic environment. (Kuhl, Williams, Lacerda, Stevens and Lindblom, 1992).


Babies who are born deaf do not show phoneme sensitivity, but they show all the other stages of language development when they learn to use sign language. This shows that language development is "built in" to humans, and it also shows that language does not depend on speaking or hearing words. The essence of human language is expression of meaning in a symbolic code.

I recently read a psychology paper that stated one of the first three forms a child ever makes playing with modeling clay is the long thin noodle produced by rolling the palm against a flat surface. Even when the child has never seen a snake, that is what they will call it ? Certain archetypes and words are built into our subconscious - the mind is a very complex network made up of ( PATTERNS ) ( NUMERICAL CODES )



posted on Nov, 2 2008 @ 06:34 PM
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Wow I found all of this really fascinating I have added this for those that can't see the connections between patterns and language

It is very fascinating, and very enlightening - if you can see the connections. It is universal, and all languages (even the ancient ones) can made to yield their phonetic secrets.

For instance, take a look at this:



Link to source: en.wiktionary.org...

Akkadian - (ilu) =
1. god, deity
2. (rare) priest


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Remember how I mentioned it was the Green Language or the Language of the Birds? Well, it's also called the Living Language (green = life).



Link to source: en.wikipedia.org...

UNITE HUMANITY WITH A LIVING
NEW LANGUAGE

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AUTHOR: R.C. CHRISTIAN
(A PSEUDONYN)

SPONSORS: A SMALL GROUP
OF AMERICANS WHO SEEK
THE AGE OF REASON


R.C. Christian = Christian Rosenkreuz
A small group = cabal
Age of Reason = The Golden Age of the alchemist.

It's also in "Elbert" county. Also, do you notice how the monument is OBSESSED with language? It's covered in all the popular languages, and even a few of the ancient ones.

I am REALLY pushing it here. Honestly I shouldn't, and can't, expound on this any more deeper than I already have. I am revealing things that have not, to my knowledge, been revealed to the general public ever before.

Disclaimer: This is to a certain individual that has helped me with my Work, and this message is to him: If you read this, please forgive me if I have said too much!

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posted on Nov, 2 2008 @ 08:35 PM
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language of the birds=174
new world order=174
number of the beast=174





posted on Nov, 2 2008 @ 08:39 PM
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I am REALLY pushing it here. Honestly I shouldn't, and can't, expound on this any more deeper than I already have. I am revealing things that have not, to my knowledge, been revealed to the general public ever before.



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As am I. I bet Dan Brown would love to get ahold of some of this. Even the underlying story behind it all. The path that has led me to this point.



posted on Nov, 2 2008 @ 08:50 PM
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language of the birds=174
new world order=174
number of the beast=174


Those are really quite stunning..

The Living Language = 174


As am I. I bet Dan Brown would love to get ahold of some of this. Even the underlying story behind it all.

Hehe, I bet he would! I think most authors would jump on this knowledge - if they could understand it.



The path that has led me to this point.

Very odd. It's funny you should say that, because this is what I've been saying for a while. It's also what my mentor mentioned (the guy that introduced me to the phonetic cabala). We're all being led to this path for a reason, by some divine supernatural force.


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posted on Nov, 2 2008 @ 09:04 PM
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That is so interesting - I have read it twice - I am sensing something on a deeper level that may take a day or two - to surface. Fascinating. Ironically I never heard of " Language of the Birds " until recently when someone posted a little about it on another site I visit - at the time I incorrectly perceived it as being a more feeling sensing type of language more psychic in concept. I am a little confused as to why the language of Indigenous people was not incorporated on the monument ? Why only Imperial nations ? Indigenous people never moved away from the middle path / path of balance - ironically I feel it was Imperial nations that lost their way ?

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posted on Nov, 2 2008 @ 10:40 PM
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Originally posted by a703o
As am I. I bet Dan Brown would love to get ahold of some of this. Even the underlying story behind it all. The path that has led me to this point.
Somehow I doubt the meeting of the minds, Dan Brown + Charles Fleischer, would produce anything particularly sensational.



posted on Nov, 2 2008 @ 11:33 PM
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JoshNorton: That's pretty funny. It would probably turn out to be a boring book, but who knows. I've thought about writing something, but it would sound way too scholarly I think. It'd put people asleep, but it would answer a lot of questions, and also put many pieces of the puzzle together.



posted on Nov, 3 2008 @ 12:49 AM
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Josh Norton- Those who would "get it" , unlike yourself, might find this to be the most important/influential work since the Holy Bable.



posted on Nov, 3 2008 @ 01:01 AM
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Josh Norton- Those who would "get it" , unlike yourself, might find this to be the most important/influential work since the Holy Bable.


In that case i challenge you to prove yourself to be correct. How many people on ATS "get it"? I dont see many im afraid. BTW, what will you do once you run out of words/phases that total to 137 etc? I find it quite interesting that that moleeds guy didnt reply, i wonder why



posted on Nov, 3 2008 @ 01:02 AM
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I find it quite interesting that that moleeds guy didnt reply, i wonder why.

Please excuse me, are you talking about me? I don't understand who you're referencing.

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