The polls are wrong - McCain is winning - and here's why.., page 8
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reply posted on 14-10-2008 @ 04:18 PM by jam321
reply to post by ThatsJustWeird



And McCain's health care plan is mainly for people without health care. If you have it already, you're not going to get $5000 (if I understand it correctly - though I wish). And as someone said earlier it does not apply to every single individual in America.


And you believe Obama's plan is for everybody. Obama has said many times that if you already have health insurance you will see your premiums go down by $2500. Why don't you tell Obama to put that money in writing, otherwise you have no guarantee. Obama plan is also for the uninsured. What neither tells you is that even with their plan they will still not be able to cover all the uninsured, much less help those who already have insurance.


reply posted on 14-10-2008 @ 04:26 PM by jam321
reply to post by GamerGal



McCain said Obama shouldn't alert the enemy or its ally about striking Pakistan if Pakistan didn't do something about Obama.

You put too much faith in the UN. Personally, we need to seperate ourself from an inept organization which refuses to back up what it says.

McCain never said he would leave Obama alone. He said he would not reveal his intentions to the enemy or Pakistan.

By the way McCain is talking about 300B on bad mortgages. He doesn't mean give every person with a mortgage a certain amount. You seem to distort the facts a lot. Nothing mean spirited just an observation.


reply posted on 14-10-2008 @ 05:40 PM by Grafilthy
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Was that a real typo???? Or was it more like the New York ballots???



reply posted on 14-10-2008 @ 06:11 PM by ThatsJustWeird
reply to post by jam321


Exactly.

And * no I don't believe Obama's plan is for everyone or that we can come close to paying that and all his other proposals without raising taxes on more than just the top 5%


reply posted on 15-10-2008 @ 07:54 AM by GamerGal
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As you and I have both said on here McCain told Osama that as long as he stays in Pakistan McCain will not go after him. He will order troops to leave Osama alone. As Osama nukes every major city in AMerica and Europe McCain will throw babies in front of bullets and missiles aimed at Osama then finally throw himself in front of Osama when he runs out of bullets as long as Osama is in Pakistan. And only on bad mortgages? So people who aren't idiots are screwed, nice on McCain. "If you're an idiot I'll save you. If you have an IQ over 100 you're lost." Great plan...


reply posted on 15-10-2008 @ 08:47 AM by jam321
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McCain has never spoken to OSAMA. And he never said he would leave OSAMA alone in Pakistan. He said he would not reveal his hand on what he would do. This leaves the enemy and Pakistan guessing how McCain will get OSAMA. It is a good strategy. Would you tell your enemy that you are going to attack them and at the same time your Ally that you are going to disrepect them and their rights to get to your enemy? If you did your enemy would have time to make plans, your friend will have some surprises waiting for you, and you lose all elements of surprise.

I disagree with McCain about helping anybody with mortgages. But your comment makes me wonder something. How come people are not opposed to government helping more poor people via welfare but are against McCain plan of helping people with bad mortgages, especially since the large majority of bad mortgages belong to the poor? Ah, the smell of hiprocracy is in the air.


reply posted on 15-10-2008 @ 09:29 AM by GamerGal
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But you still have a mortgage to pay off! Just not a bad one. And Jam, McCain attacked Obama for saying he'd go after Osama. He said as long as Osama is in Pakistan he isn't to be touched. And how do you know he didn't talk to Osama? Osama was placed in power with the help from the GOP, trained and given weapons and money by them. So how do you know McCain never met him?


reply posted on 15-10-2008 @ 12:32 PM by GamerGal
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My point is that McCain has told Americans that if you're an idiot he'll give you money. If you're smart you're screwed. And quotes? pakistanpolicy.com... politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com...


reply posted on 15-10-2008 @ 12:48 PM by jam321
reply to post by GamerGal



The burden of proof is on you to prove that McCain has taled to Osama. Up to this point I have yet to see proof that they have talked. So I am very well in my right to assume that there has been no communication between the two.

You ever hear of Charlie Wilson (D). Read up about his involvement during the Russian-Afghanistan involvement. By the way good time Charlie is from my home state and region. I will go on to say that despite all of his good times he had he was one of the best Congressmen I have ever seen. He took care of your problems no matter who you were. One of a kind.


reply posted on 15-10-2008 @ 12:58 PM by GamerGal
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I didn't say that McCain did, I said he could have as Osama was placed in power and trained by the Government under a republican president and CIA. As he was a republican he may have had contact with him. Like when the GOP was dealing with Saddam and selling him WMDs to use on Iran.


reply posted on 16-10-2008 @ 09:53 AM by GamerGal
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Did you not see when he attacked Obama for saying he'd go after Osama no matter where he went! Did you not hear the talking points they released attacking Obama about saying he'd go into Pakistan after Osama! Pay attention. Or are you like every other American and too broke and poor to pay attention as the GOP gives hundreds of billions to their friends while giving us nothing.


reply posted on 16-10-2008 @ 01:17 PM by GamerGal
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In the same article it quoted Obama, who said he'd go after Osama and the Taliban, NOT PAKISTAN! McCain lied about that and put words in his mouth.
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