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Don't turn on fox news!

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posted on Oct, 6 2008 @ 05:09 PM

posted on Oct, 6 2008 @ 05:13 PM
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posted on Oct, 6 2008 @ 05:17 PM
Sounds like the OP is one of those people who have been convinced that Obama is different than McCain.

This is supposed to be a conspiracy board people, wake up. The bankers and NWO control the Democratic and Republican parties, regardless of who the candidates are.

posted on Oct, 6 2008 @ 05:25 PM
I presonally think that watching FOX (in small doses, I'd go insane if exposed to this toxic waste for extended periods of time) helps me to not take this country and all the wonderful things american, for granted.

We, the middle class, are under attack, and the Shock Troops sent in by the right wing nuts are Hannity and the rest of the gang. It's an equivalent of radio station jamming by the Soviets during the Iron Curtain era -- senseless buzz taking up the bandwidth of public discourse and distorting the signal beyond recognition.

posted on Oct, 6 2008 @ 05:26 PM

Originally posted by watchZEITGEISTnow

People still watch fox "news"?

Fox is killing the other "news" networks.

Haven't you heard?

Get with the program.

posted on Oct, 6 2008 @ 05:29 PM
reply to post by watchZEITGEISTnow

To answer your question, apparently more people watch Fox News than all of your news sources combined - whatever they are.

Here is another one that apparently feels they know so much that they never, ever need to hear or read an opposing view on any issue.

Again, who gave you the ALMIGHTY TRUTH?

For example, I NEVER read because I feel I pretty much already know what they will have to say on any particular issue. Instead, I read Drudge, CNN, MSNBC, plus several online newspapers in order to get BOTH sides.

Try it sometime ...

[edit on 10/6/2008 by centurion1211]

posted on Oct, 6 2008 @ 05:32 PM
Originally posted by dooper

It's the only news station where one can get both sides.

Reminds me of the line from the Blues Brothers movie;

"We have BOTH kinds of music here, Country AND Western!"

posted on Oct, 6 2008 @ 05:40 PM
reply to post by Frankidealist35

i hate to come across as a jerk, but after reading the book that HE wrote and putting together the lose ends.......they arent lying about his past here, people that are pro Obama just dont want to believe it.......dont be so impassioned by a candidate that you lose sight of who and what they are.......that goes for both sides...hes not the messiah, hes a socialist look at his associations and look at the policies he wants to put forth....that being said, i dont like mccain either

posted on Oct, 6 2008 @ 06:11 PM
For the record, is an ad hominem attack against a presidential candidate really wrong? I get the point of not wishing to see such arguments made in earnest debates or against someone purely expressing an opinion or position... but aren't we electing the man in addition to the policies and the issues? Any potential president who has personality problems or ethical pitfalls needs to have these addressed.

Obama & the liberal MSM are basically doing the same to Palin & McCain... Trying to question Palin's position on the (judicially legislated) "right" to choose based on her daughter's choice to have her out of wedlock baby is about as ad hominem as it gets. Likewise, questioning McCain over the Keating scandal is an ad hominem attack all to itself. I'm not complaining about those because they are both relevant to the character of the people we're voting for. (and in the case of Palin her stance on abortion is a huge plus in my view)

posted on Oct, 6 2008 @ 07:28 PM
Hmmmm, lets see now.

Does an intelligent person get their news from many sources and use their own intellect to sort the wheat from the chaff, or do they limit their news to only one narrow point of view by only viewing news controlled by zealots in their Political Party?

Does an intelligent person consider all sides of issues before passing judgment, or do they only consider on side of an issue and always agree with only that side?

Does an intelligent person vote exclusively for members of only one Party regardless of qualifications, or do they remain independent and research all candidates and choose the best person for the job?

Hmmmm, I wonder???

posted on Oct, 6 2008 @ 07:35 PM
reply to post by Frankidealist35
Good post.

And you're right, it's all slanted news according to Rupert Murdock and his ultra conservative right wing slant on the world.

FOX NEWS is doing the same thing with Obama that they did to Kerry and the sheeple were gullible enough to vote exactly the way FOX manipulated them too.

That's exactly why we're in the mess we're in Figures below from

January 19, 2001: 10,587.59
September 29, 2008: 10,365.45

NASDAQ Jan 19, 2001 = 2770.38
NASDAQ September 29, 2008 = 1983.73

CPI, January 19, 2001: 175
CPI, September 29, 2008: 219

Dollar exchange with Euro, January 19, 2001: 1.068
Dollar exchange with Euro, September 29, 2008: .695

And people do not learn, they keep believing in FOX NEWS and voting Republican. Are YOU better off then you were eight years ago?

National Debt During 8 Clinton Years: Increased $1.3 Trillion to $6T
National Debt During 8 Bush II Years: Increased $4.2 Trillion to $10T

Regular Unleaded Gasoline - January 22, 2001: $147.1 per Gallon
Regular Unleaded Gasoline - September 29, 2008: $363.2 per Gallon

"Fox is not objective. Fox is a Republican propaganda machine." Roger Ebert (and I agree).

[edit on 6-10-2008 by ofhumandescent]

posted on Oct, 6 2008 @ 07:45 PM
When I turn on my TV, Fox News is the channel that automatically comes on. I guess because when I turn my TV off at night that's the channel it's on? That will not change, just because some liberal finds fair and balanced reporting objectionable.

[edit on 6-10-2008 by RRconservative]

posted on Oct, 6 2008 @ 07:51 PM
reply to post by CreeWolf

I like that "polished turd" phrase. There was another by Michael Riggs that said, "a turd dressed in a fine silk sock, at the end of the day, is still a turd."

You, Cree. Me, Cherokee.

posted on Oct, 6 2008 @ 07:53 PM
Originally posted by Blaine91555

Does an intelligent person consider all sides of issues before passing judgment, or do they only consider on side of an issue and always agree with only that side?

Thank you.

One thing my mother taught me when I was a kid was to keep an open mind and don't pass judgment until you understand more than you think you already know. (notice I didn't include the "usual" phrase, "...until you know all the facts".) Nobody will ever know ALL the facts. It just becomes an issue of if you even bother to look into issues yourself or just pop a beer and have it explained to you, by Fox, or MSNBC.

Sadly the days of Walter Cronkite are over and will probably never be revisited given the new age of sensational journalism where ratings are more important than the facts.

And as I've previously posted, I don't appreciate negative attacks, from anybody, presidential candidate or dog catcher, or those news outlets that insist in feeding the flames.

So at least I found an issue that John McCain and I agree on.

[edit on 6-10-2008 by zlots331] I don't know how to embed video yet.

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posted on Oct, 6 2008 @ 08:01 PM
reply to post by ofhumandescent

Thank you for talking some sense here. You would be surprised at how many ATS users here are easily mislead by Fox news just because they like conspiracies and they want something to poke at Obama with.

Obama doesn't have ties with terrorists. Obama didn't even know about this guy's past when he had this convention for him. I'm surprised users on ATS are so gullible.

posted on Oct, 6 2008 @ 08:17 PM


look at you all

bread and circus for the mind

who said what? oo look who's smearing who! hey they can't do that!
haey! change the channel


same agenda

you're all acting like COMPLETE MESMERIZED FOOLS.

WHO CARES?!!!!!!

2 sides same coin.
there to make you feel as if this simulated democracy is really giving you what you want and need as a society.. yet is only dividing you.

makes me sick.


posted on Oct, 6 2008 @ 08:25 PM
reply to post by prevenge

They have different personalities.

One cares for the middle class (Obama), one wants to destroy it.

One wants to tax health care, one doesn't.

I know that people may think they're two sides of the same coin but I think Obama is the better of the two. Don't sell yourself short because you believe they're the same.

posted on Oct, 6 2008 @ 08:42 PM

Originally posted by darkangel831
Just a question here..

If the stories are so false, why the desire to cover them up by calling for not watching them?

Would not the truth be better served by coming out instead of covering up?

I will always be very cautious of anyone telling me to "Not Watch" something because "they" have decided I should not see it.

Why did Hitler burn books? He did not want anyone reading them...

Because people are going to have trouble discerning between real and fake. There are even posts in this thread claiming FOX to be fair and balanced. That should tell you something.

posted on Oct, 6 2008 @ 09:20 PM
Now I'm gonna turn on Fox News and leave it there. Maybe some truth will come out to prevent Mabus' (Obama) front man from being elected.

posted on Oct, 6 2008 @ 10:16 PM
reply to post by TheRooster

It's obvious he's a terrorist sympathiser, from the beginning. If people in this nation had a decent education they would know that the people he idolizes (Alinksky etal) are Marxists. They work through 'community organizers.' Because we have such a dumbed down society he will get elected and this country will be Muslim within a year.

Wake up, people!

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