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reply posted on 12-10-2008 @ 03:16 PM by Frankidealist35
reply to post by darkangel831



Those other websites have a conservative bias, so who are you to believe?

You just like fox news because you claim they are unbias because they go after Democratic candidates. Yet, you claim that liberal media, is bias because they go after Republican candidates.

Who are you to believe?

Why are you blindly believing anything that the MSM tells you?

The bottom line is this-- OBAMA IS CLEAN. The reason why he isn't coming clean about himself is there is nothing to come clean about.

He has no associates that are questionable. He is clean. CLEAN.

John McCain knows he won't win the election if people talk about the issues. So John McCain is trying to distract people much like yourself into believing something that is not true. It's worked so far and you've forgotten to not trust the media.




reply posted on 12-10-2008 @ 04:48 PM by Frankidealist35
reply to post by darkangel831



He is clean.

He has only been in Washington for about 4 years.

All of the claims being made about him saying he is a terrorist have been false.

You should do some research... if you did some research you would find that not too long ago John McCain was saying that he wanted to find out the associates Obama was tied to... this is all McCain's doing. You bought into Republican party propaganda. You have been brainwashed.

Obama is fairly clean. Outside of a few associations with people in the bilderburg group Obama hasn't really done much of anything for people to take notice of.



reply posted on 12-10-2008 @ 04:56 PM by darkangel831
reply to post by Frankidealist35



How can you not see that your blind faith in Obama is no different than what you claim are others blind faith in Fox News?

Short of you being related to him, which I will assume would have been stated by now, you have no honest idea if what you are saying is fact or not.

I think that his associations are subject to investigation and that he has some shady characters in his closet.

While you are making blind faith statements about him being perfectly clean, the facts that he attended those meetings in that man's living room are just that; facts.

His associations with Rezko are troubling as well but all of this pales in comparison to the fact that his supporters don't want any of us looking at it.

All they want is for us to also just accept that he is "Clean" as you say and not look into his associations as should be done..


reply posted on 12-10-2008 @ 05:07 PM by Frankidealist35
reply to post by darkangel831



First of all, these aren't blind faith statements in support of Obama. I support the Democratic party. I would vote for the Democratic party even if Hillary was the Democratic nominee for the Democratic Party. I am a Democrat.

It's different from the people that support fox news, because, unlike Republicans, I don't lie about the other party's candidate, I don't like John McCain because of his ideologies. Here you have Republicans saying that Obama is a terrorist, but, have you ever seen Obama say John McCain is a terrorist?

Obama has never criticized McCain's patriotism... where John McCain has accused Obama of being tied with terrorists... or at least his party has been doing that the last few weeks.

See, it's not blind faith, it's support for the party that I support.


reply posted on 12-10-2008 @ 05:12 PM by darkangel831
reply to post by Frankidealist35



We are diametrically opposed then my friend..

I vote for the best person for the job.. I could care less about the party


reply posted on 12-10-2008 @ 05:58 PM by Frankidealist35
reply to post by darkangel831



I don't want failed Republican policies ruining the nation for the next 4 years... I'm sorry but if you support the Republican party after George Bush I think you would be seriously deluded.


reply posted on 12-10-2008 @ 06:36 PM by Frankidealist35
reply to post by Dbriefed



The whole part of Obama being a Muslim. People are saying Obama wants the nation to be a Muslim nation when this isn't true. All Obama has been saying is that we are more than just a Christian nation.


An Organized Effort?

There are indications that the inaccurate version – omitting the word "just" – has been spread in an organized effort to discredit Obama. The news database Nexis contains two letters to the editor that appeared in different states over different signatures, but with words that are nearly identical to the e-mail we quote above.

One appeared in the San Angelo (Texas) Standard-Times on July 29. It begins:

Texas Letter to the Editor, July 29: As my husband and I were watching a news program earlier this week, we watched in horror as Barack Obama made the statement with pride ..."we are no longer a Christian nation; we are now a nation of Christians, Jews, Muslims, Buddhists."So many other statements made by him (and his wife) were upsetting enough, but I never thought the day would come when we would hear something like that from a presidential candidate in this country.


Also


The Manchurian Islamic Candidate?

Readers have also asked us about an oft-forwarded e-mail falsely claiming that Obama is a Muslim and suggesting that he is part of an Islamic plot to take over the U.S. "from the inside out" with "one of their own." This screed reads like the outline of a bad remake of the 1962 movie The Manchurian Candidate, in which Frank Sinatra unravels a Communist plot to make "one of their own" the president.

There is little excuse for those who continue to circulate this one. The most audacious falsehood it contains (of several) is a claim near the top: "We checked this out on 'snopes.com'. It is factual. Check for yourself." Anyone who actually does that would quickly find that Snopes.com, the respected debunker of urban myths, judges the message to be "false." And yet we continue to receive examples sent to our readers by others who either don't take the time to check, or who don't care that they are repeating false and damaging statements.

www.factcheck.org...
www.factcheck.org...


reply posted on 13-10-2008 @ 10:01 AM by Marcus Calpurnius
reply to post by Frankidealist35



Every other network is running smear campaign against McCain and Plain. They have been for months! Should we turn them off, or is it ok as long as its democrats smearing Republicans?


reply posted on 13-10-2008 @ 10:03 AM by theodorej
reply to post by Frankidealist35



Greetings ....This is just the kind of well informed clear thinking we need to solve the woes of this nation.....The american people cannot handle the truth....And the truth is they want to hear only smooth things that fit the profile of politically correctness.....A large number of americans look to the government for their very existance whether it be through a civil service job or a government entitlement of some kind.....The government has no money it exists on the taxes levied on people who produce goods and services..(productive entities)...The candidate who promises the most will win,simply because of the selfish nature of the masses....What I find amusing is, even if the candidate lies...its ok..they will find somebody to blame...


reply posted on 13-10-2008 @ 11:20 AM by Frankidealist35
reply to post by Marcus Calpurnius


I dont see it as smearing. The Democrats are just protecting themselves against slander from the other side. Let me ask you a question. Do you want someone in office who will help America or do you want someone in office who would continue the same failed policies of the Bush administration?


reply posted on 13-10-2008 @ 09:22 PM by Frankidealist35
reply to post by CharlesMartel



Maybe they don't anymore, but, at the time I made this thread, Fox News was saying some pretty racist things. Rather than criticizing Obama's policies they tried to attack Obama's past and making it seem like he was a terrorist. Sean Hannity was behind all of it. I accept any valid criticism of Obama, I just, don't accept lies and slander of him.


reply posted on 16-10-2008 @ 07:49 AM by theodorej
Originally posted by Frankidealist35
reply to
post by CharlesMartel



Maybe they don't anymore, but, at the time I made this thread, Fox News was saying some pretty racist things. Rather than criticizing Obama's policies they tried to attack Obama's past and making it seem like he was a terrorist. Sean Hannity was behind all of it. I accept any valid criticism of Obama, I just, don't accept lies and slander of him.


Greetings....There is nothing wrong with valid criticism...I have noticed that the term "racist"is bantered around quite often....Iam curious if those that use this expletive know what or who would qualify as a racist...May I suggest,Hitler,Stalin,Farakan,Armadinajad and so on.....These are folks who espouse/espoused the survival of their race and ideology at the expense of a another....If we can agree on this ,than it is possible to conclude that we are all racists....Sometimes, to get at the truth, you have to say and do things that are not very nice....according to the protocol of political correctness....
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