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Originally posted by 1011010110
reply to post by Power_Semi
Uh huh, and who decides what the basic standard of living is? The government?
What if someone is sick? Is their standard of living the same as everyone else's? Does a cancer patient get more money to maintain the same standard of living as everyone else?
Does a brown-eyed person get more money so they can have the same standard of living as a blue-eyed?
Shorter people make less money and are esteemed less by society than taller people, so what if shorter people want growth hormones? Are you going to give it to them for free?
I think what he is suggesting is this...
Originally posted by atlasastro
Originally posted by badmedia
I haven't seen the movie, but the OP is right based on what he said.
The OP is right, based on what he said, LOL. Well, what else have you got to base it on, you haven't even bothered to watch a movie with ideas you just tried to write off. It is a movie, its up to you to watch it, then take any Ideas and truth it offers, reasearch them, discuss them and decide if they have truth and/or merit. Like the way you should treat all info! Including the OP who is right based on what he said.lol.
The NWO must be loving all the dumb people.
[edit on 7-10-2008 by atlasastro]
Originally posted by 1011010110
You just discredited yourselves. First of all, giving everyone 50k is useless. Basic economics dictates inflation would reset the baseline to 50k. In other words, 50k would be the new minimum wage. LOL!
And as for living like the military, I certainly don't want to live with military benefits. Have you even been to the VA? Of course not. Otherwise, you'd know what sort of health benefits they have. They're horrendous.
I'm afraid you guys completely discredited yourselves. Face it, your technocratic utopia is actually a road to Aldous Huxley's Brave, New World. You guys just don't want to recognize it.
The Federal Reserve Board on Tuesday released figures that indicate the Federal Reserve Banks distributed approximately $21.454 billion of their $30.246 billion total income to the U.S. Treasury during 2005.
Communism is a socioeconomic structure that promotes the establishment of an egalitarian, classless, stateless society based on common ownership of the means of production and property in general.
The communist movement has attempted to produce a communist society by setting up political parties, which in some cases have become governments. These attempts have never produced a communist society, and have frequently led to totalitarian states.
Originally posted by mike dangerously
reply to post by greenjuice
Oh,no a flim came out that says that this system is fatally compromised!! how dare,they say our form of government is an illusion!! If we just put Ron Paul in office that will restore the American Dream!! I don't see anything wrong with presenting a new idea to what have have right now,I always thought that's why this site existed to promote different ideas.I guess people see what they wanna see.Go back to the Patriot movement with their mindless flag wavers and bible thumpers you seem to fit right in.
Originally posted by caballero
So rather than living in a better world where disagreements didnt end in bloodshed, or when someone wanted to make a few more billion dollars they didnt have to start a war,
in a world where energy was free and abundant
where machines made up the work force and humans could enjoy there lives instead of working it away
where people were actually encouraged to become the smartest person they can be, not just a worker drone.
Instead of living in a world where everyone can be happy, you would rather live in this world?
I never once said I was right I did say that a world where abundance is the base of the economy instead of scarcity, would be a better world.
Right now scarcity is causing suffering for everyone on earth, so if scarcity is the problem then what would be the best notion for a solution the opposite of scarcity being abundance. Yes it may not be 100% perfect im saying this and the movie also stated this, but it would be so much better than the way things are right now.
Can you argue against that? How could a world where everyone has food, clean water, free energy, where they dont have to worry about money, where technology is advancing rapidly to make life easier, how can a world like this be a bad place?