So... Who's Going to Join the Zeitgeist Movement??, page 9
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reply posted on 9-10-2008 @ 05:31 PM by Anonymous ATS
reply to post by SuperSecretSquirrel



Well look, I've been an active member of the venus project forum, and let me just state for the record, that it is NOTHING like a cult. You're not required to do anything but openly discuss things primerely of technological nature or regarding social structures and things like that. You don't pay any money either, except for donations, which are, of course, optional. I found the people there to be very knowledgable and insightful aswell.

As for Jacque Fresco, he just happens to be a very smart man, who have spent the last 80 years contemplating how to build a sustaiable peaceful future. The venus project just haven't gotten enough exposure to gain critical mass, so I'm personally very excited about it appearing in this movie. I will see you all tomorrow when the zeitgeist movement takes off =)


reply posted on 9-10-2008 @ 06:22 PM by PhilltFred
reply to post by Anonymous ATS



I don't disagree with what you have been saying in this thread, all I intend to do is throw
some more light onto the "Zeitgeist" movement. It's not about joining a cult, it's about changing one's "come from" about the world. If we operate from love and compassion, from harmony and peace, we are not a cult. We are merely humans allowing others to do their won thing. It's not about following rules, it's about doing away with rules.

Mr. Fresco is right in context, although his concept may leave a bit to be desired. The bottom line is well intended and can create a world in which we can all thrive, and set our aims for exploration of other worlds.

It would be very difficult for me to see beings from other worlds wanting to meet with us now, when we cannot even get along with our own kind. We must first become an enlightened planet, then our light will guide toward the others.



reply posted on 9-10-2008 @ 06:36 PM by PhilltFred
reply to post by infamousyellow


They are smart, but are they smarter than you or me? If they pull us out of the crisis they created would that make people forget revolution and change or would it prove how much control they really have?

The system that is in place has been there for many, many years now. It is an ancient system that makes us all subjects and slaves to their greed and lust for power. Do you not think that they have such control? Listen to how you are already questioning that which must surely be your gut feelings. Listen to your inner voice telling you it is the right thing, but your logical mind telling you that "they" will do something to stop you from exercising your own free will.

If you don't fight for something, you will surely die for nothing.

You may say that I'm a dreamer,
But I'm not the only one.
I hope someday you'll join us,
And the world we be as one.
- J. Lennon



reply posted on 9-10-2008 @ 06:52 PM by PhilltFred
reply to post by Anonymous ATS



We will still require farms and farmers. Someone will have to provide the people with learning, whether it's the skills to build wind turbines, solar cells, computers, transportation, etc. Somebody will also have to administer the cures for diseases, until we can provide healing planet wide. Those that study the physics of the universe will help build the spacecraft and others will learn how to fly them. They will need crew to do the various tasks that will allow not only exploration, but habitation of other worlds.

When we do establish diplomatic ties with other off world civilizations, there will be cultural exchanges, introduction of new crops and species, student exchanges, etc. Only none of it will be based on profits, only knowledge and enlightenment.

The current paradigm is like an old pair of jeans. It's comfortable to wear, and the patches can keep you covered. Sooner or later though, you have to get another pair, when they old ones no longer do you any good. Reforms and bailouts are like patches and threads. you can only fix so much, and t hen it is necessary to replace the old.

Most of us are tired of fixing the old. It's like the old Chevy we hate to give up, but when it becomes more costly to repair than to replace, we get another. And right now the costs of repair will far outweigh the costs of a new system.

It's time.
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