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reply posted on 30-11-2008 @ 01:46 PM by Fletcher33
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And as far as the space race paving the way for new technologies, I agree with you totally which is why I put it in my post, it is proof that when the whole gets together to accomplish something, even as fantastically unbelievable as landing on the moon, we accomplished it. So Im not sure why you say "by the way the space race paved the way for technologies..... as if I said disagreed. I used it to paint a picture of what is possible when all are involved in a project rather that a few. Great wall of China, Pyramids...these are unbelievable accomplishments regardless of the slavery that made them ( which is atrocious) they show how large scale our ideas can be when working as a whole. I am trying to have some hope in this God forsaken world and would rather spend my time doing something about the world than talking about doing something. I live my life this way.

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reply posted on 1-12-2008 @ 08:02 AM by zman
Originally posted by Fletcher33
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post by zman



And as far as the space race paving the way for new technologies, I agree with you totally which is why I put it in my post, it is proof that when the whole gets together to accomplish something, even as fantastically unbelievable as landing on the moon, we accomplished it. So Im not sure why you say "by the way the space race paved the way for technologies..... as if I said disagreed. I used it to paint a picture of what is possible when all are involved in a project rather that a few. Great wall of China, Pyramids...these are unbelievable accomplishments regardless of the slavery that made them ( which is atrocious) they show how large scale our ideas can be when working as a whole. I am trying to have some hope in this God forsaken world and would rather spend my time doing something about the world than talking about doing something. I live my life this way.

[edit on 30-11-2008 by Fletcher33]


I see your point of view. Hope is a good thing. I am poor , yet I help all I can without discernment. I just do not help those who will take advantage, as they have their just reward. As far as doing great things and having a movement towards it , it will be watered down by the time it ever happens. Like our Consitution, it used ideas from other written laws and mixed them in the final copy. It took a while for it to take shape , but the founders at least had a law to use and study. This movement the Venus Project as no laws or rules to follow that are abtainable to look at. It has on the web site, in the left corner, what we are about. If you read that you can see the type of control that the project wants. I do not agree to that. But you are doing good without compensation, which is what is being good is all about. What I can tell from some people that they just want to sit on their butt and let others do all the work. This I also disagree with. You can not have that type of utopia unless it is already in place. Here in the USA we already have laws and some infrastructure that we could utilize and make it happen. We would need a leader and leaders that we all trust and agree with to move a project like this to a workable solution. All I see is greed from our leaders, and going in the wrong direction in my mind. But I can still do what I do, to help others who really need help. Doing what you do, and I doing what I do, can have lasting effects on the whole. If more do what we do, then its a movement.



reply posted on 8-12-2008 @ 08:02 PM by Tulkor
I preach it, I preach it....but they don't believe it even though i provide sources to what i say and everything.

People are instantly turned off with anything that sounds like a conspiracy theory...and then i say "look at the facts then." too many arguments ive had with the so called "intellectuals" at my college have ended with them saying the dreaded words, "Oh you are one of those conspiracy theorists, psh!"

How bout you fricken give me a response to the data I've provided in my argument instead of trying to turn it off with the "anti-conspiracy" button. damn...those ppl just ughhhh!

Im not asking them to believe in alien conspiracies or even the Illuminati for that matter. im just trying to get them to realize our government has strayed from a democracy to a plutocracy. Im trying to make them realize that capitalism is really fascist capitalism these days. Corporations OWN America and most of the world, and they do not care about you. That is all I am striving for them to realize.

That is what i suggest for all of you to start, EVEN if you believe in Illuminati, FEMA camps, reptillian aliens, etc, etc. We gotta use gradualism in OUR favor to convince these people. If they are turned off by those ideas that are too extreme for them....start small and work your way up. GRADUALISM!!! (but in a good way instead of using it to dumb down Americans)

Hermes-press.com and corrupt.org are too very very good sites that outline many events past and present as well as ideas, philosophy etc. A good start.


reply posted on 19-12-2008 @ 06:52 AM by razerek49
hello, i come from a poor country(3rd world to be exact) and having to live with the realities of life, i must admit that PV has no future from where i am. sure, i've watched the film a couple of times and even made my researches about it and i find the validity of some parts questionable and also find the inclusion of PV even more questionable for a documentary.
ofc, as a 3rd world, we've seen the worst of economic instability since $ translates to our currency as 45-50x and the (puppet)government being ran by US(or fed rather). hell, even the US pressures my c