MSM plays it role to instill a sense of fear and dread into people; feral youths running wild, terrorists on the loose, perverts on the net.

It feeds people's fear's to such an extent that 'the people' then ask for, or allow, their rights to be freely taken away.

In the meantime we are drip fed a constant diet of inane X Factor, Big Brother and Jeremy Kyle in an attempt to dumb down and anaesethetize the whole country.

We are one step away from a cashless society where our every single purchase can be monitored.

The aim?
Can only be total control and compliancy.

Hi There,

What is the point of perceiving two party politics as being different from each other, surely they both seek the same continuance of the same status quo? Even having token 3rd or 4th parties does not make a concept of democracy, certainly not that which is held as the 'ideal' to accept.

Whatever happens in the US, will I believe be implemented here in the UK, afterall, the whole of Britain is about the size of one American state, compact and easier to monitor. I too should have thought that eavesdropping (no, spying) on internet traffic was already underway, but even so, it will not make me change my habits. I consider myself a free-thinker, and engage in political discussion only to present an alternative viewpoint. I am no terrorist, as I vehemently oppose violence as a bona-fide voice for change; principles and philosophy are the tools I use, because to make change a viable option one needs to rehabilitate mindsets out of the cultural shackles inculcated since birth. You can't 'force' the issue, but educate until it becomes a 'dawning' moment in the receiver...until it becomes a self-propagating idea of support for peaceful change. Totalitarian states always (without question) fail and fall, because they always provide evidence which brings about their downfall, no matter how big or powerful they may seem to be.

This so-called eavesdropping is not about safety and security for the people, but for that of the status quo of the power structure, of the elite's position. The people have always been fodder for their agendas, but the one auspicious failing of the people (in any country) is the refusal to co-operate with each other. Some call it apathy, others ignorance and indifference, but by whatever term one uses to describe it, it is that which provides the fertile breeding ground for totalitarianism to establish itself limpet-like upon the lives of the people. It has been establishing itself by varying degrees in western countries for many decades, and only now is it beginning to show a visage approaching that which aids recognition of it being totalitarian. Intrusion and interjection into people's private and personal lives is by all definitions...totalitarian, regardless of the reasons for them doing so.

Originally posted by ben420
How the hell do you moniter 1800 text messages a second?

In the same way that telcos monitor it for billing purposes. 1800/sec is not a lot when you consider the hardware and AI behind the scenes for large scale data mining and analyzing.

To the poster who recommended TOR....be careful because the exit nodes are not encrypted. A very good product for pseudo-stealth is ultrareach/ultrasurf.

brill

Good post, however they've probably already have been engaged in the operations. Example when America found out, the government had been doing stuff like that years prior. Dating back to Clinton's stay at the white house.

Originally posted by ben420
It seems every couple days theres a new report on Britain creeping closer and closer to an "official" police state. I think they are in over their heads with this one though.

Officials claim live monitoring is necessary to fight terrorism and crime. However, critics question whether such a vast system can be kept secure. A total of 57 billion text messages were sent in the UK last year - 1,800 every second.

How the hell do you monitor 1800 text messages a second?

America already has a system that monitors "key words" .. Like when you say "Osama" it might be flagged and observed. Normal conversations are supposedly not listened to, but only if enough key words are used in the conversation to warrant observation.

Sounds very Orwellian to me.

Originally posted by Old Man

Yes, their track record is poor. But they seem, even now, to be capable of tracking down parking-fine offenders and benefit cheats when it suits them

And don't forget that we live in an age of quantum leap technological advances.

Nothing can be dismissed, that is looming on the horizon.

There is nothing particularly hi-tec about how most benefit cheats are caught, believe me - most of them drop themselves in it by not being very bright. The folks processing their claims notice discrepancies in their statements etc and some bloke gets to sit in a car outside their house at five in the morning waiting for them to get up and go off to their cash-in-hand job. Yup, that's how it's done. A lot of people who get caught are known cos they've been caught before and either they just didn't learn or figured it was worth the risk.

Originally posted by Wotan
Well, the UK Governments track record of IT projects is not good. The NHS computer records system is 10 years overdue and the cost has spiralled and is still not ready yet and not likely to be in the near future.

This is all Labour hogwash imo, dont worry folks, we will soon have these bas***** out of office.

Oh yes! Roll on that day!

It is true though, I think the biggest thing we have to worry about here is how much of our hard earned money they're gonna waste, because man they are way too incompetent to make this thing work..