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reply posted on 23-10-2008 @ 12:41 AM by ANNED
There are far more cost effective means of dealing with the pirates, electrical shock for one, making it impossible for the pirates to board the ships.

A world armada is an expensive undertaking.


electrical shock?????????
let not be wimps here.

How about a sniper with a Barrett M82
lh4.ggpht.com...
With Cartridge, Caliber .50, Armor-Piercing-Explosive-Incendiary, APEI-169, M02 ammo
en.wikipedia.org...

Then they will only try to take one last ship.
and it would be cheaper then installing a electrical shock system.

I wonder why Blackwater Maritime has not gone into the ships protection business.


reply posted on 23-10-2008 @ 01:56 PM by ballast
"WASHINGTON (AP) -- Enough processed uranium to make six nuclear weapons was secretly transported thousands of miles by truck, rail and ship on a monthlong trip from a research reactor in Budapest, Hungary, to a facility in Russia so it could be more closely protected against theft, U.S. officials revealed Wednesday.

The shipment, conducted under tight secrecy and security, included a three-week trip by cargo ship through the Mediterranean, up the English Channel and the North Sea to Russia's Arctic seaport of Murmansk, the only port Russia allows for handling nuclear material.

The 13 radiation-proof casks, each weighing 17,000 pounds, arrived by rail at the secure nuclear material facility at Mayak in Siberia on Wednesday, carrying 341 pounds of weapons-usable uranium, said Kenneth Baker, a National Nuclear Security Administration official who oversaw the complex project.

It is the largest recovery to date of highly enriched uranium provided either by the former Soviet Union or the United States under a program, begun in the 1950s, aimed at spreading the peaceful use of nuclear energy. The two countries have been working to return the spent fuel from reactors around the world because at many of the facilities, including the one in Budapest, security is lax, raising the possibility of the material being stolen by terrorists.

It began at 3 a.m. in Budapest in late September and ended early Wednesday, Washington time, at the nuclear facility at Mayak in Russian Siberia. In between the shipment moved without notice aboard truck and rail to the port of Koper in Slovenia and then by special cargo ship through the ocean shipping lanes that encircle Europe, always staying in international waters at least 12 miles from shore, according to Baker.

"It was a big shipment, the biggest one we've ever done,"...

The shipments then moved through the Mediterranean, through the Strait of Gibraltar, up the Atlantic and into the English Channel, the North and Norwegian seas and then on to Murmansk by Saturday. From there the shipment was loaded on a train for the long trip to Siberia.

"It was the most complicated trip we've ever taken by far," said Baker, who oversaw the loading and early part of the shipment but did not accompany the shipment after it went to sea, instead returning to Washington."

www.cnn.com...

The port of muscat is in the gulf of Oman and a very unlikely place to take a ship full of enough radioactive waste capable of making many dirty bombs. Could they have transferred the shipping containers to a Russian vessel? That's a lot of nuclear material. Could it be the MV Deyanat and another ship's load? Did they find one of the other ships?

The timing is certainly about right.

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reply posted on 27-10-2008 @ 09:56 PM by ballast
Iranian official calls for attack on UK

I thought this article and thread, with the addition of the moderator post was interesting in relation to our subject. If the forum communication networks are still down, how would any communication with terrorist cells occur?

Where are the radioactive shipments?

The Iranian Generals may have simply been looking a military scenarios to consider, nevertheless, the communication aspect of intelligence related to the MV Deyanat and her sister ships is a conundrum.

Update coming soon.

www.jpost.com...

www.abovetopsecret.com...

Originally posted by DJMessiah
"Middle East Media Research Institute, aka MEMRI (created by Israeli Mossad agents), the same people that intentionally mistranslated all the "Wipe off the map" quotes, the Palestinain Children's TV show that had Mickey Mouse, and the people who openly say they have an agenda against Arabs. "

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Mod. Majic:

"Actually, the original source of the "wipe off the map" translation appears to be none other than Islamic Republic of Iran Broadcasting (IRIB), who broke the story (and thus the ensuing hubbub) in English with an article titled "Ahmadinejad: Israel must be wiped off the map". The original article has since disappeared from the IRIB website (at least, I wasn't able to find it) but is still available via archive.org:

web.archive.org...://www.iribnews.ir/Full_en.asp?news_id=200247 ***

The New York Times followed suit by posting a full transcript of the speech which included the "wiped off the map" phrase and from there the controversy snowballed.

MEMRI's own translation never used the phrase, but rather the expression "eliminated from the pages of history" (which appears to be a more accurate interpretation), so blaming MEMRI for a scandal triggered by Iran's own official news agency is a position not supported by the facts.

The Wikipedia article relating to this as well as several other comments made by President Ahmadinejad is very well-sourced and highly recommended for anyone interested in finding out more about how the "wipe Israel off the map" meme got started:

Wikipedia: Mahmoud Ahmadinejad and Israel

As for the veracity of MEMRI's translations in general, MEMRI's "mission" (founder Yigal Carmon does have an extensive background in Israeli intelligence, for example, although apparently with Aman rather than Mossad), how they may relate to this particular story or the credibility of the Jerusalem Post, for that matter, I always recommend skepticism and certainly do in this case as well.

Whenever any question of authenticity or attribution surrounds controversial claims like these, it is wise to seek corroboration before drawing conclusions."



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reply posted on 27-10-2008 @ 10:09 PM by makeitso
Another hint?

US sanctions firms for alleged sales of arms technology

The State Department announced in the Federal Register that "13 foreign persons," meaning companies, "engaged in activities that warrant imposition of measures" under its Iran, North Korea and Syria Non-Proliferation Act.

The United States says the sanctions are meant to punish the firms for sales that have "potential to make a material contribution to the development of weapons of mass destruction or cruise or ballistic missile systems."

It did not in this listing link firms to specific equipment or alleged destination countries.

The companies and organizations targeted were: China Xinshidai Company; China Shipbuilding and Offshore International Corporation; Huazhong CNC; Iranian Revolutionary Guard Corps; Korea Mining Development (North Korea); Korea Taesong Trading (North Korea); Yolin/Yullin Tech (South Korea); and Rosoboronexport of Russia.

Also sanctioned were Sudan Master Technology, and Sudan Technical Center Co.; Army Supply Bureau (Syria); R and M International FZCO (UAE) and Venezuelan Military Industries (CAVIM).



reply posted on 2-11-2008 @ 09:01 AM by makeitso
Looks like the M.V. Iran Deyanat has departed the Port of Salalah, Oman,
(managed by A. P. Moller-Maersk Group),
and is on its way to the Port of Rotterdam.


Iranian ships step up precautions in Gulf of Aden
the Iran Deyanat had sailed to Salalah, Oman, after its release and was now in the Mediterranean, heading to Rotterdam.





www.marinetraffic.com...#


[edit on 11/2/08 by makeitso]


reply posted on 2-11-2008 @ 10:51 AM by Darthorious
Originally posted by spitefulgod
Originally posted by Britguy
Now then, what's missing here?........ Oh Yes!, that's it, a complete lack of any evidence other than innuendo, rumour and completely unsubstantiated reports from anonymous sources. Must be true then!

Seriously, what a complete and utter load of nonsense. How in the hell would an Iranian ship get anywhere near the Israeli ports / coast without being blown out of the water far offshore? Then you have to consider the wind conditions being just right to blow the irradiated matter towards the right part of the Israeli shoreline, not a Palestinian part.

The whole idea is just so harebrained and full of holes it's funny. It'd be easier to pack a ship with HE and scrap metal and detonate it in port. at least then it'd have some effect, whereas this dirty bomb idea would be unlikely to succeed.
Even IF the ship made it into an Israeli port and detonated, the likely spread of radioactive material would be so thinly spread it'd probably be less harmful than a series of dental XRays.

Then there's the fact that Israel, probably with US help, would launch a nuclear strike against Iran and wipe out tens, if not hundreds of thousands in retaliation.



Here here false flag indeed, why`s it not being acted on yet?


That's just it though. The Iranian leader is an idiot. I could totally see him trying something stupid like this. He may be a good smuggler and a good BS'er but he lacks common sense just check out his video's on youtube there's plenty of them.
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